APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

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Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by PV1 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:26 am

Looks like this is indeed the one: https://fireballs.imo.net/members/imo_v ... /2021/6241

Both the Photographer Hao Qin, and Ms Hamilton ("Ruth H") are listed as observers. It is listed as Oct 4 5:30 UT, but local time is Oct 3, 23:17.

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by markb212 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:46 pm

Thanks, Art, for the references! Interesting stuff. I read The Illustrated Man as a teenager in the mid '60s, but sad to say I don't remember any of it. Ok, so now I have a (re)reading assignment. :ssmile:
MB

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by markb212 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:39 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:07 am
markb212 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:54 am
EdJen wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:17 pm https://www.thegoldenstar.net/news/mete ... ght-shock/

Link to an article of a piece of the meteor going through a roof and landing on a pillow in Golden BC
Did anyone notice that Ms. Hamilton was apparently asked if she had "plans to take up astrology ... "? Sigh. Depressing. Maybe the questioner considered horoscopes (horrorscopes?) a legitimate way to predict encounters with meteors; but probably not.

Still, it's interesting to think her rock might have caused the fireball over Lake Louise.

Mark B.
It would be more accurate to say that the meteorite that fell through her roof was a remnant of the body that created the meteor. Probably not the only one.
Understood. Late night editing is not so good. :ssmile:
We seem to be traveling through two or three debris streams now.
https://www.amsmeteors.org/meteor-showe ... -calendar/
MB

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by neufer » Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:07 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:07 am
markb212 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:54 am
Did anyone notice that Ms. Hamilton was apparently asked if she had "plans to take up astrology ... "? Sigh. Depressing. Maybe the questioner considered horoscopes (horrorscopes?) a legitimate way to predict encounters with meteors; but probably not. Still, it's interesting to think her rock might have caused the fireball over Lake Louise.
It would be more accurate to say that the meteorite that fell through her roof was a remnant of the body that created the meteor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illustrated_Man wrote:
Ray Bradbury's Kaleidoscope: <<The crew of a space ship drift helplessly through space after their craft malfunctions. The story describes the final thoughts and conversations of the crew members as they face their death. The narrator bitterly reflects on his life and feels he has accomplished nothing worthwhile ("I'll burn like a meteor. I wonder if anyone'll see me"). His final thought is a wish that his life would at least be worth something to someone else. As he falls through Earth's atmosphere and is incinerated, he appears as a shooting star to a child in Illinois. "Look! A shooting star!" And mommy says "Make a wish!"

- The Illustrated Man is a 1951 collection of 18 science fiction short stories by American writer Ray Bradbury. A recurring theme throughout the stories is the conflict of the cold mechanics of technology and the psychology of people. >>
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=horror wrote:
<<horror (n.) early 14c., "feeling of disgust;" directly from Latin horror "dread, veneration, religious awe," a figurative use, literally "a shaking, trembling (as with cold or fear), shudder, chill," from horrere "to bristle with fear, shudder.">>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope wrote:
<<The Latin word horoscopus, ultimately from Greek ὡρόσκοπος "nativity, horoscope", "observer of the hour [of birth]", from ὥρα "time, hour" and σκόπος "observer, watcher". In Middle English texts from the 11th century, the word appears in the Latin form and is anglicized to horoscope in Early Modern English. In Greek, ὡρόσκοπος in the sense of "ascendant" – not only of the time of someone's birth, but more generally of any significant event – and ὡροσκοπία "observation of the ascendant" is in use since Ptolemy.>>

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:07 am

markb212 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:54 am
EdJen wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:17 pm https://www.thegoldenstar.net/news/mete ... ght-shock/

Link to an article of a piece of the meteor going through a roof and landing on a pillow in Golden BC
Did anyone notice that Ms. Hamilton was apparently asked if she had "plans to take up astrology ... "? Sigh. Depressing. Maybe the questioner considered horoscopes (horrorscopes?) a legitimate way to predict encounters with meteors; but probably not.

Still, it's interesting to think her rock might have caused the fireball over Lake Louise.

Mark B.
It would be more accurate to say that the meteorite that fell through her roof was a remnant of the body that created the meteor. Probably not the only one.

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by markb212 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:54 am

EdJen wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:17 pm https://www.thegoldenstar.net/news/mete ... ght-shock/

Link to an article of a piece of the meteor going through a roof and landing on a pillow in Golden BC
Did anyone notice that Ms. Hamilton was apparently asked if she had "plans to take up astrology ... "? Sigh. Depressing. Maybe the questioner considered horoscopes (horrorscopes?) a legitimate way to predict encounters with meteors; but probably not.

Still, it's interesting to think her rock might have caused the fireball over Lake Louise.

Mark B.

Re: The princess and the Comet fragment

by orin stepanek » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:15 pm

neufer wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:08 pm
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
orin stepanek wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm
oostef wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:42 pm

'An explosion in the sky': Golden, B.C., woman nearly hit by meteorite after it crashed through her ceiling.
The lady owns a piece of Heaven; I'd keep it too; or sell it for a tidy sum!
:lol2:

The princess and the Comet fragment

by neufer » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:08 pm

Click to play embedded YouTube video.
orin stepanek wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm
oostef wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:42 pm

'An explosion in the sky': Golden, B.C., woman nearly hit by meteorite after it crashed through her ceiling.
The lady owns a piece of Heaven; I'd keep it too; or sell it for a tidy sum!

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by orin stepanek » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm

oostef wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:42 pm Have any guess where the meteorite has landed?

'An explosion in the sky': Golden, B.C., woman nearly hit by meteorite after it crashed through her ceiling

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/an-explosion-in-t ... -1.5619818
The lady owns a piece of Heaven; I'd keep it too; or sell it for a tidy sum!

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by johnnydeep » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:47 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 pm
johnnydeep wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:23 pm
alter-ego wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:33 am Impressive shot, but I can't help but look at this and shiver.
Short story, when I was way younger, my brother and I rolled a canoe in Lake Louise during a hot, sunny, mid-summer day. We were across the lake and maybe 50' or more from the shore, and by the time we pulled the canoe and stuff to shore, we aching all over. This picture at night makes the lake seem even colder, brrrrr.
Is "rolling a canoe" a thing, or did you mean that you "rowed a canoe"? Also, 50 feet of rowing doesn't seem too difficult or that far. There must be more to this story...
He means the bottom of the canoe became the top. And the occupants got dunked. I assumed they swam. It is possible to get back into a canoe you've rolled, but it's tricky and requires practice.
Ah. That makes a lot more sense. So "rolling a canoe" is indeed a thing, just not a very good thing!

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by Chris Peterson » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 pm

johnnydeep wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:23 pm
alter-ego wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:33 am Impressive shot, but I can't help but look at this and shiver.
Short story, when I was way younger, my brother and I rolled a canoe in Lake Louise during a hot, sunny, mid-summer day. We were across the lake and maybe 50' or more from the shore, and by the time we pulled the canoe and stuff to shore, we aching all over. This picture at night makes the lake seem even colder, brrrrr.
Is "rolling a canoe" a thing, or did you mean that you "rowed a canoe"? Also, 50 feet of rowing doesn't seem too difficult or that far. There must be more to this story...
He means the bottom of the canoe became the top. And the occupants got dunked. I assumed they swam. It is possible to get back into a canoe you've rolled, but it's tricky and requires practice.

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by johnnydeep » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:23 pm

alter-ego wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:33 am Impressive shot, but I can't help but look at this and shiver.
Short story, when I was way younger, my brother and I rolled a canoe in Lake Louise during a hot, sunny, mid-summer day. We were across the lake and maybe 50' or more from the shore, and by the time we pulled the canoe and stuff to shore, we aching all over. This picture at night makes the lake seem even colder, brrrrr.
Is "rolling a canoe" a thing, or did you mean that you "rowed a canoe"? Also, 50 feet of rowing doesn't seem too difficult or that far. There must be more to this story...

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by John Spirko » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:12 pm

Here's a report from nearby Golden, Alberta (83 kilometers from Lake Louise) about a woman who woke up with a meteor fragment on her pillow:


https://www.thegoldenstar.net/news/mete ... ght-shock/

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by Sa Ji Tario » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:24 pm

Chris Peterson wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:52 pm
JohnD wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:52 am Ann,
I believe that a meteor big enough to go fireball will be at least one meter across. The Yucatan object was 10,000 to 15,000 meters wide. The Lake Louise object was therefore 5,000 to 15,000 times smaller. The dinosaurs could have continued to sleep easy. For then, anyway.
JOhn
This might be seen as an "average" bright fireball. I doubt its parent body was anywhere near a meter in diameter.
For the time it lasted, it could have been a 3mm marble and I agree with Chris (if it had had 1mt it would have detonation and it would have hit the ground)

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by EdJen » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:17 pm

https://www.thegoldenstar.net/news/mete ... ght-shock/

Link to an article of a piece of the meteor going through a roof and landing on a pillow in Golden BC

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by ilikespace80085 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:52 pm

this water looks very chilly. BRRRRRRRR. :brr: :brr: :brr:

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by JohnD » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:41 pm

oostef wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:42 pm Have any guess where the meteorite has landed?

'An explosion in the sky': Golden, B.C., woman nearly hit by meteorite after it crashed through her ceiling

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/an-explosion-in-t ... -1.5619818
quote the Apod blurb, " If more than one person recorded an image, the fireball might be traceable back to the Solar System body from which it was ejected." and to where it might have landed? Or could this help? (linked to from blurb) https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/fireballs/

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by Fred the Cat » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:34 pm

I suspect the Fireball was pint sized!
Fireball.jpg
Because if I was out all night
Ignite.jpg
I'd need something to "Ignite the Night" :wink:

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by oostef » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:42 pm

Have any guess where the meteorite has landed?

'An explosion in the sky': Golden, B.C., woman nearly hit by meteorite after it crashed through her ceiling

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/an-explosion-in-t ... -1.5619818

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by Chris Peterson » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:52 pm

JohnD wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:52 am Ann,
I believe that a meteor big enough to go fireball will be at least one meter across. The Yucatan object was 10,000 to 15,000 meters wide. The Lake Louise object was therefore 5,000 to 15,000 times smaller. The dinosaurs could have continued to sleep easy. For then, anyway.
JOhn
This might be seen as an "average" bright fireball. I doubt its parent body was anywhere near a meter in diameter.

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by neufer » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:44 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Louise,_Alberta#Government wrote:


:arrow: On dirty dusty ground, a black and white target practice poster of a bipedal insect-like creature stands, riddled with bullet holes. Barbed wire runs behind the poster and a large circular spaceship hovers in the background.

Lake Louise is administered by Improvement District No. 9.

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by farlightteam » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:31 pm

A very nice

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by orin stepanek » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:40 am

FireballAlberta_Qin_1080.jpg
Another rock meets it's maker! I've never seen a fireball; nor do I
care to! :shock:
8121c0291fa14d1fe52b9eb007741cac.jpg
We've seen this kitty before! This time she's watching a fireball! :mrgreen:

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by Tszabeau » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:40 am

I hope that’s not the one that fell through the woman’s roof and came to rest on her pillow. On second thought…

Re: APOD: Fireball over Lake Louise (2021 Oct 12)

by JohnD » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:52 am

Ann,
I believe that a meteor big enough to go fireball will be at least one meter across. The Yucatan object was 10,000 to 15,000 meters wide. The Lake Louise object was therefore 5,000 to 15,000 times smaller. The dinosaurs could have continued to sleep easy. For then, anyway.
JOhn

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