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[quote=Aethereal post_id=307603 time=1603787527]
Thank you Chriss, I thought that the only evidence of the existence of dark matter were its gravitational effects. Was I wrong?
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Not entirely. Almost all of the [i]observational [/i]evidence for dark matter is related to its gravitational effects. But those observations are of very different things- galaxy rotation curves, the distribution of matter in galaxy clusters, gravitational lensing, and others. But there is also a lot of theoretical support- the anisotropy of the CMB, the density requirements for our best Big Bang theory, galaxy formation processes, and others.

All of these things demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that dark matter exists, and in sum they largely rule out the only identified alternatives to it actually being matter of some kind, such as modifications to our understanding of gravity itself.

I don't think you'll find many cosmologists who entertain much doubt that dark matter is made up of some kind of non-baryonic particles.

Thank you Chriss, I thought that the only evidence of the existence of dark matter were its gravitational effects. Was I wrong?

[quote=Aethereal post_id=307565 time=1603672957]
This dark matter theory seems quite artificial to me. Will it end the same way the old aether theory ended?
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The existence of dark matter is evident through many independent lines of evidence. It is real, beyond reasonable doubt. What is uncertain is its nature. Most likely an elementary particle of some kind, but that leaves several possibilities (although the range of possibilities continues to narrow with new experiments and observations).

This dark matter theory seems quite artificial to me. Will it end the same way the old aether theory ended?

[quote=ta152h0 post_id=307563 time=1603668179 user_id=100922]
Want to explore my brain? just tell me what is the universe expanding into? pass the ice cold one
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It isn't expanding into anything.

Want to explore my brain? just tell me what is the universe expanding into? pass the ice cold one

[float=right][img3="M94, the galactic beauty with no dark matter? Photo: R Jay Gabany (Blackbird Obs.)"]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Messier_94.jpg/1024px-Messier_94.jpg[/img3][/float]


I just watched [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsmTl7pn1vY&t=613s]a video by Dr Becky[/url], where she talked about galaxy M94. Maybe possibly maybe M94 lacks dark matter.

Ann

Thanks Chris! I know you are correct, and after reading your reply I found this;
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-dark-matter-and-vs-antimatter/
I don't know much about it either! 8-)

[quote="richard schumacher" post_id=307553 time=1603642215 user_id=124394]
[quote="Chris Peterson" post_id=307552 time=1603637659 user_id=117706]
Dark matter is "stuff", and as such it can clump or be otherwise non-uniform. As best as we know right now, dark energy is a property of spacetime, and has no structure.
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Is dark energy necessarily a property of spacetime? If so then there would be no way to accumulate or concentrate it; it would always be uniformly distributed, except where spacetime itself is concentrated. (But then I would wonder what happens near the singularity inside a black hole, where there is a whole lotta spacetime goin' on.)

If it isn't an intrinsic property of spacetime, that would hold open the possibility that it could be accumulated or concentrated, somehow.
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There is a reason I qualified my comment with "as best as we know right now". We certainly don't know enough about dark energy to say with any certainty what is or is not possible. Only that the evidence we currently have best suggests it as a property of spacetime, and as such not something that could accumulate or have a non-uniform density.

[quote="Chris Peterson" post_id=307552 time=1603637659 user_id=117706]
Dark matter is "stuff", and as such it can clump or be otherwise non-uniform. As best as we know right now, dark energy is a property of spacetime, and has no structure.
[/quote]
Is dark energy necessarily a property of spacetime? If so then there would be no way to accumulate or concentrate it; it would always be uniformly distributed, except where spacetime itself is concentrated. (But then I would wonder what happens near the singularity inside a black hole, where there is a whole lotta spacetime goin' on.)

If it isn't an intrinsic property of spacetime, that would hold open the possibility that it could be accumulated or concentrated, somehow.

[quote=RocketRon post_id=307541 time=1603604541]
If dark energy repels, is it likely to clump or string together, or be spread uniformly (and 'expandingly') throughout the universe ??
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Dark matter is "stuff", and as such it can clump or be otherwise non-uniform. As best as we know right now, dark energy is a property of spactime, and has no structure.

[quote="orin stepanek" post_id=307547 time=1603629585 user_id=100812]
DarkMatter_KipacAmnh_960.jpg


You're going to think I'm nuts; but my opinion is that maybe dark matter is antimatter; and is combining with positive matter and is creating the universe! Instead of anilalating each other; are in fact attracting each other! That would also explain the exansion of the universe! Maybe I am nuts! :mrgreen:
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For a variety of reasons, dark matter as antimatter has been ruled out.

Let someone invert the colors and it will look like the neural network

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You're going to think I'm nuts; but my opinion is that maybe dark matter is antimatter; and is combining with positive matter and is creating the universe! Instead of anilalating each other; are in fact attracting each other! That would also explain the exansion of the universe! Maybe I am nuts! :mrgreen:

Looks like neurons.

It would be fun to see a simulation of the combined effects of dark matter and dark energy. Preferably as an animation!

Ann

Or is dark energy merely a manifestation of time running 'backwards' which we are unable to quantify or observe. ?

If dark energy repels, is it likely to clump or string together, or be spread uniformly (and 'expandingly') throughout the universe ??

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