by neufer » Thu May 11, 2017 1:50 pm
Chris Peterson wrote:RedFishBlueFish wrote:
If the desire is to be specifically exclusionary and deliberately sectarian, why use the more politically correct truncated version and not simply have the courage to use the original Anno Domini nostri Jesu Christi? On the other hand, one might express the year as 1054 CE, as is common in the non-sectarian and inclusive world of science.
Certainly it would be better to use CE, and that would be consistent with scholarly usage (which this site should appropriately use). But the use of AD is sufficiently common and normalized in our culture that it no more represents a religious sentiment than "goodbye" or "bless you" in response to a sneeze.
http://www.etymonline.com/ wrote:
good-bye (interj.) salutation in parting, also goodbye, good bye, good-by, 1590s, from godbwye (1570s), a contraction of God be with ye (late 14c.), influenced by good day, good evening, etc. As a noun from 1570s. Intermediate forms in 16c. include God be wy you, God b'uy, God buoye, God buy, etc.
adieu (interj.) late 14c., adewe, from Old French a Dieu, a Deu, shortened from phrases such as a dieu (vous) commant "I commend (you) to God," from a "to" (see ad-) + dieu "God," from Latin deum, accusative of deus "god," from PIE *deiwos "god" (from root *dyeu- "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god"). Originally said to the party left (farewell was to the party setting forth), but in English used as a general parting salutation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak wrote:
<<In George Orwell's world of Nineteen Eighty-Four, Newspeak is a controlled language, of restricted grammar and limited vocabulary, a linguistic design meant to limit the freedom of thought—personal identity, self-expression, free will—that ideologically threatens the régime of Big Brother and the Party, who thus criminalised such concepts as thoughtcrime. In "The Principles of Newspeak", the appendix to the 1949 novel, Orwell explains that Newspeak usage follows most of the English grammar, yet is a language characterised by a continually diminishing vocabulary; complete thoughts reduced to simple terms of simplistic meaning.>>
[quote="Chris Peterson"][quote="RedFishBlueFish"]
If the desire is to be specifically exclusionary and deliberately sectarian, why use the more politically correct truncated version and not simply have the courage to use the original [i]Anno Domini nostri Jesu Christi[/i]? On the other hand, one might express the year as 1054 CE, as is common in the non-sectarian and inclusive world of science.[/quote]
Certainly it would be better to use CE, and that would be consistent with scholarly usage (which this site should appropriately use). But the use of AD is sufficiently common and normalized in our culture that it no more represents a religious sentiment than "goodbye" or "bless you" in response to a sneeze.[/quote][quote=" http://www.etymonline.com/"]
good-bye (interj.) salutation in parting, also goodbye, good bye, good-by, 1590s, from godbwye (1570s), a contraction of God be with ye (late 14c.), influenced by good day, good evening, etc. As a noun from 1570s. Intermediate forms in 16c. include God be wy you, God b'uy, God buoye, God buy, etc.
adieu (interj.) late 14c., adewe, from Old French a Dieu, a Deu, shortened from phrases such as a dieu (vous) commant "I commend (you) to God," from a "to" (see ad-) + dieu "God," from Latin deum, accusative of deus "god," from PIE *deiwos "god" (from root *dyeu- "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god"). Originally said to the party left (farewell was to the party setting forth), but in English used as a general parting salutation.[/quote][quote=" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak"]
<<In George Orwell's world of Nineteen Eighty-Four, Newspeak is a controlled language, of restricted grammar and limited vocabulary, a linguistic design meant to limit the freedom of thought—personal identity, self-expression, free will—that ideologically threatens the régime of Big Brother and the Party, who thus criminalised such concepts as thoughtcrime. In "The Principles of Newspeak", the appendix to the 1949 novel, Orwell explains that Newspeak usage follows most of the English grammar, yet is a language characterised by a continually diminishing vocabulary; complete thoughts reduced to simple terms of simplistic meaning.>>[/quote]