APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

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Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Chris Peterson » Sun May 04, 2014 12:56 am

Anthony Barreiro wrote:("Leonids" are meteors from the Leonid meteor shower. I'm sure the same chemical processes take place in meteors from the Eta Aquariid and other meteor showers. And now I'm sure that Chris will correct me.)
Nope. However, it should be noted that light from the meteoroid constituents is rarely strong enough to overpower that from the ionized atmosphere. So most of the observed color is atmospheric in origin, not meteoritic. Spectral bands from meteoroid components are typically only seen clearly in spectrograms.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Anthony Barreiro » Sat May 03, 2014 9:49 pm

Beyond wrote:I didn't know that's Anthony's avatar. All I could tell from his small picture is that it was a mountain. Thanks, Bruce.
When I was picking an asterisk avatar I had recently returned from a trip to Yosemite, so I chose an Ansel Adams picture of Half Dome on a whim. I don't claim any special identification with Half Dome. That granite will be there long after I'm dust. I was tickled to see Half Dome featured in an apod.

Ann, if you ever visit California, I hope you will go to Yosemite.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Beyond » Sat May 03, 2014 9:35 pm

I didn't know that's Anthony's avatar. All I could tell from his small picture is that it was a mountain. Thanks, Bruce.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Ann » Sat May 03, 2014 8:46 pm

BDanielMayfield wrote:
Ann wrote:The things they don't teach you in Swedish schools! What is Half Dome? Anthony, are you it???
Check out the "Yosemite" and "face of half-dome" links in the description. Half Dome is Anthony's avatar, which his arrows are pointing at. He could even be out climbing it on this fine spring day. Via the cable route, I hope. :lol2:
I was sort of joking. :wink: But seriously, I had to google "Half Dome" to know what it is! (Now that I have done so, I know it is a remarkable rock formation, and I don't believe that its middle name is Anthony.) :wink:

Ann

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by BDanielMayfield » Sat May 03, 2014 8:39 pm

Ann wrote:The things they don't teach you in Swedish schools! What is Half Dome? Anthony, are you it???
Check out the "Yosemite" and "face of half-dome" links in the description. Half Dome is Anthony's avatar, which his arrows are pointing at. He could even be out climbing it on this fine spring day. Via the cable route, I hope. :lol2:

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Ann » Sat May 03, 2014 7:50 pm

Anthony Barreiro wrote:My, this is a lovely picture. I'm honored. :ssmile: =====> =====> =====> =====> :arrow: =====> =====> =====> =====> :arrow:
The things they don't teach you in Swedish schools! What is Half Dome? Anthony, are you it???

Ann

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Beyond » Fri May 02, 2014 10:58 pm

BMAONE23 wrote:
Beyond wrote:Jumpin Jehoshaphat! The only thing missin is Yosemite Sam. A picture of him-->Image
Isn't that His 'Half Dome" hat we see in the distance?
I don't think so. Yosemite Sam is a 'star', but he's not 'that' starry. :no:

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by BDanielMayfield » Fri May 02, 2014 10:05 pm

Guest wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
JoKerMc wrote:This is indeed a very beautiful photo -- wonderful composition. I am curious, though, about the number of people that "bend" the Milky Way into an arc in the pictures they submit to APoD. When I look up at the sky at night, I see (or used to, before the light pollution in my area) a thing of perfect beauty. Any artificial changes seem like a detraction, I think. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?.
The fact that you need to both bend and rotate your neck to observe the Milky Way visually should be a clue as to what is going on.

Consider the fact that both the horizon and the Milky way are essentially linear, but you never see the two as parallel, and they normally intersect in two places. Can you draw a pair of lines on a sheet of paper that intersect in two places but don't overlap?
Great, now if only someone could figure out how to do it to the actual sky, so that you needn't be bothered bending and rotating your neck in order to look at it.
It's simple. Just develop eyes that bulge out of your head and can see a 180 degree field of view. :shock:

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Guest » Fri May 02, 2014 8:29 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
JoKerMc wrote:This is indeed a very beautiful photo -- wonderful composition. I am curious, though, about the number of people that "bend" the Milky Way into an arc in the pictures they submit to APoD. When I look up at the sky at night, I see (or used to, before the light pollution in my area) a thing of perfect beauty. Any artificial changes seem like a detraction, I think. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?.
The fact that you need to both bend and rotate your neck to observe the Milky Way visually should be a clue as to what is going on.

Consider the fact that both the horizon and the Milky way are essentially linear, but you never see the two as parallel, and they normally intersect in two places. Can you draw a pair of lines on a sheet of paper that intersect in two places but don't overlap?
Great, now if only someone could figure out how to do it to the actual sky, so that you needn't be bothered bending and rotating your neck in order to look at it.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Anthony Barreiro » Fri May 02, 2014 7:58 pm

zol wrote:Why is the meteor streak green? What is causing that color?
Leonid MAC wrote:Colors of meteors -- The color of many Leonids is caused by light emitted from metal atoms from the meteoroid (blue, green, and yellow) and light emitted by atoms and molecules of the air (red). The metal atoms emit light much like in our sodium discharge lamps: sodium (Na) atoms give an orange-yellow light, iron (Fe) atoms a yellow light, magnesium (Mg) a blue-green light, ionized calcium (Ca+) atoms may add a violet hue, while molecules of atmospheric nitrogen (N2) and oxygen atoms (O) give a red light. The meteor color depends on whether the metal atom emissions or the air plasma emissions dominate.
("Leonids" are meteors from the Leonid meteor shower. I'm sure the same chemical processes take place in meteors from the Eta Aquariid and other meteor showers. And now I'm sure that Chris will correct me.)

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by zol » Fri May 02, 2014 7:42 pm

Why is the meteor streak green? What is causing that color?

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Anthony Barreiro » Fri May 02, 2014 6:41 pm

My, this is a lovely picture. I'm honored. :ssmile: =====> =====> =====> =====> :arrow: =====> =====> =====> =====> :arrow:

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Chris Peterson » Fri May 02, 2014 5:08 pm

JoKerMc wrote:This is indeed a very beautiful photo -- wonderful composition. I am curious, though, about the number of people that "bend" the Milky Way into an arc in the pictures they submit to APoD. When I look up at the sky at night, I see (or used to, before the light pollution in my area) a thing of perfect beauty. Any artificial changes seem like a detraction, I think. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?.
The fact that you need to both bend and rotate your neck to observe the Milky Way visually should be a clue as to what is going on.

Consider the fact that both the horizon and the Milky way are essentially linear, but you never see the two as parallel, and they normally intersect in two places. Can you draw a pair of lines on a sheet of paper that intersect in two places but don't overlap?

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by geckzilla » Fri May 02, 2014 5:03 pm

JoKerMc wrote:This is indeed a very beautiful photo -- wonderful composition. I am curious, though, about the number of people that "bend" the Milky Way into an arc in the pictures they submit to APoD. When I look up at the sky at night, I see (or used to, before the light pollution in my area) a thing of perfect beauty. Any artificial changes seem like a detraction, I think. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?.
When you are outside looking at the sky you are looking at a three dimensional world. When you are at your computer looking at an image on your screen, you are looking at that three dimensional world projected on to a two dimensional surface. This is analagous to a globe being projected on a paper map.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by BMAONE23 » Fri May 02, 2014 4:58 pm

Beyond wrote:Jumpin Jehoshaphat! The only thing missin is Yosemite Sam. A picture of him-->Image
Isn't that His 'Half Dome" hat we see in the distance?

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by StarManAlpha » Fri May 02, 2014 4:30 pm

Step aside Ansel Adams! Wow...

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by JoKerMc » Fri May 02, 2014 4:26 pm

This is indeed a very beautiful photo -- wonderful composition. I am curious, though, about the number of people that "bend" the Milky Way into an arc in the pictures they submit to APoD. When I look up at the sky at night, I see (or used to, before the light pollution in my area) a thing of perfect beauty. Any artificial changes seem like a detraction, I think. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by LocalColor » Fri May 02, 2014 3:43 pm

Ron-Astro Pharmacist wrote:I love the symmetry of water falling from a flowing stream to a falling meteor from a stream of comet dust. Nice touch that its source was from a wellspring in Aquarius. Great job Rogelio!!
Your words are much more eloquent than I could have written about this image. Thank you.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Ron-Astro Pharmacist » Fri May 02, 2014 3:10 pm

I love the symmetry of water falling from a flowing stream to a falling meteor from a stream of comet dust. Nice touch that its source was from a wellspring in Aquarius. Great job Rogelio!!

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by CURRAHEE CHRIS » Fri May 02, 2014 12:31 pm

Easily one of my favorites for 2014. Very beautiful

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Boomer12k » Fri May 02, 2014 12:30 pm

Wow, nice pic...Earth, and the Heavens...

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Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by orin stepanek » Fri May 02, 2014 11:09 am

Very nice! :thumb_up: :yes: :-D

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Ned Adams » Fri May 02, 2014 9:59 am

The shot is awesome but the APoD prose is consistently superb. The writers deserve our ongoing thanks for the clarity and insight they provide. The link choice is outstanding.

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Ann » Fri May 02, 2014 5:02 am

This is a very beautiful picture.

Ann

Re: APOD: That Night over Half Dome (2014 May 02)

by Beyond » Fri May 02, 2014 4:20 am

Jumpin Jehoshaphat! The only thing missin is Yosemite Sam. A picture of him-->Image

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