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by **Prospero** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:35 am

Thanks , *

geckzilla wrote:If you stick around long enough,

I'll try :-!)

just to be contrary.

yer me too

I do like conversations, I dont like pages quoted 'in lieu' !

elsewhere you commented on your view of the Geminids :
(I'll post there when I find it again!)
so, just to take relief from this controversy, I followed you outside - - two spectacular Geminids in 5 mins!
Thanks for the alert 1

Although my local lighting authority has switched street lights off after midnight the winter humidity in SW England still means a visual limiting mag of only 4.5

but it looks good so far ,,

fell over a gardenplanter of herbs it was so dark (mint but that's anothr tale

)

by **geckzilla** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:45 am

If you stick around long enough, you'll learn that is neufer's way. Personally, I stopped thinking about his posts just to be contrary.

by **Prospero** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:35 am

neufer wrote:
Prospero wrote:
I dont understand your point, would you like to de-clutter your post ?
Not particularly.

Oh that is a shame.

There are so many mechanisims with which to make "the west" feel guilty about the poverty of the "developing nations"
yet any dissenting view neigh, any adverse question of aid
(which I do not reject, but I do require a reasoned justification in the face of profligate expenditure in machismo projects)
results in a post/link to other sites (of which we are of course familiar) and opinions not expressivly of _your_ own.

by **fausto.lubatti** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:50 pm

Wonderful subject and picture!

by **Boomer12k** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:25 am

Lovely Picture!

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by **neufer** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:06 am

Prospero wrote:
I dont understand your point, would you like to de-clutter your post ?

Not particularly.

by **Prospero** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:29 am

I dont understand your point, would you like to de-clutter your post ?
are you addressing me ?
Are you commenting upon national elites and their macho economies wrt their poor
or wrt inter-regional posturing ?
or my simple principle that if we (the UK) considered it beyond our economic means to fund an independent space prog. then why should we fund that of others ?
We could of course do so if we did not parade military pretentions in the world in political support of other supposed 'powers',
but I fear I may be straying too far , , ,

I thort it was a good pic of Lovejoy, , , i'm outa here , , ,

by **neufer** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:08 am

: [b][color=#0000FF][size=175]Map of world poverty by country,[/size] showing percentage of population living on less than $2 per day.[/color][/b]

Prospero wrote:
neufer wrote: The UK is the 3rd biggest contributor to CERN
The UK is the 4th biggest contributor to ESA
(The UK is also a member of ESO.)
Yep, quite so, now how about persuading the Indians to join in, to mutual benifit ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#Economy wrote:
<<The Indian economy is the world's third-largest by purchasing power parity. However, it continues to face the challenges of poverty, corruption, malnutrition, inadequate public healthcare, and terrorism. A nuclear weapons state, it has the third-largest standing army in the world and ranks eighth in military expenditure among nations.>>

by **Prospero** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:50 am

neufer wrote: The UK is the 3rd biggest contributor to CERN
The UK is the 4th biggest contributor to ESA
(The UK is also a member of ESO.)

Yep, quite so,
now how about persuading the Indians to join in, to mutual benifit ?

Mind u, if I am not mistaken, the present aid arangements will, because of recent understandings, soon expire.

In respect of littlesats cubesats etc., I did have some involvement in UoSats (both amateur and professional) (at Surrey Uni on the back of AMSAT and other fundings) and things Intelsat, Giotto and Ulysees etc. of yesteryear, so I know well the UK participation in space activities IN COLLABORATION with other nations, I just dont appreciate go-it-alone-macho on the back of grants & stuff

by **neufer** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:19 am

Prospero wrote:
PS 'Prospero', the one and only satellite launched by the UK,
but we are still giving aid to those who go to Mars ???
duh, how did that happen ?

The UK is the 2nd biggest contributor to EUMETSAT
The UK is the 3rd biggest contributor to CERN
The UK is the 4th biggest contributor to ESA
(The UK is also a member of ESO.)

Before the advent of cube/nanosatellites it was rather wasteful for non-superpowers
to launch and fly their own spacecraft but feel free now to join:

First Canadian nanosatellite
First of 4 Denmark CubeSats
First of 2 Ecuadorian satellites
First Estonian satellite
First Hungarian satellite
First Italian CubeSat
First Polish satellite
First Romanian satellite
First Swiss satellite

by **Prospero** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:38 am

geckzilla wrote:everyone loves kittens, puppies, bunnies and whatever

Argh, shhh, now anyone will be able to post !lol!
Actually, I only had to type it once, then my windoze/vista/AI would fill it in after I remembered to type a "K" !

Greetings to all, from he who was a guest, nice to meet you,
howzat Anthony ?

PS 'Prospero', the one and only satellite launched by the UK, but we are still giving aid to those who go to Mars ???duh, how did that happen ?

by **Anthony Barreiro** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:53 pm

geckzilla wrote:I'm sure everyone loves kittens, puppies, bunnies and whatever else I put in but you don't have to type that very silly CAPTCHA answer anymore if you register.

Oh, so that's the answer! I've never been able to figure out what doesn't fit in the list. Everybody knows space is full of all kinds of creatures, in tiny little space suits!

by **geckzilla** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:51 pm

I'm sure everyone loves kittens, puppies, bunnies and whatever else I put in but you don't have to type that very silly CAPTCHA answer anymore if you register.

by **Anthony Barreiro** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:43 pm

Guest wrote:If I do much more of this I must get round to reg.ing!

Yes pls.

by **Guest** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:30 pm

Nitpicker wrote:Bad Nitpicker! More correctly,

No worries, I got your meaning !!
I had, earlier, copied (to clipboard) the high def image and then Paste into IrfanView,
but no exif showed up, I'm sure that has worked in the past (?!), so instead, on your prompt, I saved it to file then opened in IrfanView and Lo! exif intactus

If I do much more of this I must get round to reg.ing!
Thanks,,

by **Guest** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:18 pm

Nitpicker wrote:If you download the full resolution image file, the camera settings are set as file attributes.

Thanks, got it now.

Alt. caption for Art's cartoon :-
"My name is Cassegrain, what is yours,
you can call me Laurent,
would you like to see my new telescope ? "

Alt2. :-
" My name is Cassegrain,
I used to make mill-stones for French windmills
but then I had a bright idea for a telescope"

I'll get my coat , , ,

by **geckzilla** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:13 pm

Now if you can find a thing to nitpick about your nitpick then we can have a Nitpicker nitpicking a Nitpicker nitpick. A fine display of recursion.

by **Nitpicker** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:04 pm

Nitpicker wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote: then I looked at the exifs: 3200 iso and a f/1.4 lens... not for me.
Where did you find the exif ?
If you download the full resolution image file, the camera settings are set as file attributes.

Bad Nitpicker! More correctly, the camera settings are embedded into the image file, in standard Exif format, which many programs, including Windows Explorer, can display and modify.

by **Nitpicker** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:23 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote: then I looked at the exifs: 3200 iso and a f/1.4 lens... not for me.
Where did you find the exif ?

If you download the full resolution image file, the camera settings are set as file attributes.

by **Nitpicker** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:18 pm

neufer wrote:There really is an observatory (of sorts):

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... 2F&act=url

Yes, a very good one, ~2km North of the township.

See:
http://www.obs-hp.fr/welcome.shtml

And:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haute-Provence_Observatory

by **Anthony Barreiro** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:52 pm

Lovejoy is a beautiful sight in binoculars, visible even from a city. It's much easier to see before and during dawn than in the evening -- higher above the horizon and climbing rather than setting. This photo gives an unrealistic impression of how bright it appears -- at least from my urban location it is not at all visible to the naked eye. You need to know where to look to see it through binoculars.

If this comet was in the inner solar system 7000 years ago, why are we calling it Comet Lovejoy? No offense to Terry Lovejoy, but this comet could have been discovered by somebody living in India, the Middle East, or Central America in 5000 bce, and the records lost or not properly translated.

by **neufer** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:48 pm

Click to play embedded YouTube video.

Chris Peterson wrote:
Ann wrote:
I never knew they had lavender in December!
I'm green with envy.
It kind of looks like a harvested field of lavender.

by **Ron-Astro Pharmacist** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:21 pm

Meanwhile it’s Comet Lovejoy Quixote tilting at a windmill. What giant may be on its mind?

“That Sun is coming up too fast and it’s hot, hot, hot.

I’d rather go down there by that cool windmill smelling the lavender!!!”

by **geckzilla** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:14 pm

Charliepatriot wrote:Need a little help (for the grandson). What time and direction is best to see Lovejoy from southern Ohio.?

Just after sunset to the west northwest or just before sunrise to the east northeast. A star chart like the one Astrobob made can help you narrow down where to look by finding constellations when you go out.
http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2013/11/ ... t-lovejoy/

Lovejoy into December_edited-1 by cometlynx, on Flickr

by **Charliepatriot** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:06 pm

Need a little help (for the grandson). What time and direction is best to see Lovejoy from southern Ohio.?

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