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Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Beyond » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:11 pm

Being that close to the sun, i would have thought that a Mercury pizza would have a browner-crispier look to it. I'll have to break it down and analyze it. :chomp: YUM :!: Good information.

Four cheese pizza (natural color)

by neufer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:44 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei#Sunspots wrote: <<Galileo was one of the first Europeans to observe sunspots, although Kepler had unwittingly observed one in 1607, but mistook it for a transit of Mercury. He also reinterpreted a sunspot observation from the time of Charlemagne, which formerly had been attributed (impossibly) to a transit of Mercury. The very existence of sunspots showed another difficulty with the unchanging perfection of the heavens posited by orthodox Aristotelian celestial physics, but their regular periodic transits also confirmed the dramatic novel prediction of Kepler's Aristotelian celestial dynamics in his 1609 Astronomia Nova that the sun rotates, which was the first successful novel prediction of post-spherist celestial physics. And the annual variations in sunspots' motions, discovered by Francesco Sizzi and others in 1612–1613, provided a powerful argument against both the Ptolemaic system and the geoheliocentric system of Tycho Brahe. A dispute over priority in the discovery of sunspots, and in their interpretation, led Galileo to a long and bitter feud with the Jesuit Christoph Scheiner; in fact, there is little doubt that both of them were beaten by David Fabricius and his son Johannes, looking for confirmation of Kepler's prediction of the sun's rotation. Scheiner quickly adopted Kepler's 1615 proposal of the modern telescope design, which gave larger magnification at the cost of inverted images; Galileo apparently never changed to Kepler's design.>>

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Beyond » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:00 pm

neufer wrote:
Beyond wrote:
Stendec wrote:
Upon closer examination I concur that the area I mentioned in my previous post has some craters and is merely uncolored. I also noticed two or three other uncolored areas. I plead presbyopia. (Or I can think of some other excuse if you don't like that one.)
That excuse works well for me.

I don't have the foggiest idea what it means, and I'm tooo lazy to look it up. :lol2:
And you call yourself "far-sighted." :roll:
:lol2: , eggzackly, i think.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by neufer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 pm

Beyond wrote:
Stendec wrote:
Upon closer examination I concur that the area I mentioned in my previous post has some craters and is merely uncolored. I also noticed two or three other uncolored areas. I plead presbyopia. (Or I can think of some other excuse if you don't like that one.)
That excuse works well for me.

I don't have the foggiest idea what it means, and I'm tooo lazy to look it up. :lol2:
And you call yourself "far-sighted." :roll:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Beyond » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:47 am

That excuse works well for me. I don't have the foggiest idea what it means, and I'm tooo lazy to look it up. :lol2:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Stendec » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:07 am

Upon closer examination I concur that the area I mentioned in my previous post has some craters and is merely uncolored. I also noticed two or three other uncolored areas. I plead presbyopia. (Or I can think of some other excuse if you don't like that one.)

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Beyond » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:21 am

geckzilla wrote: Garish colors? You don't say! I hated this image so much that I downloaded the largest format available and tinkered with the individual channels. I got it looking a lot better aesthetically and gave the vegetation (red) greater depth by assigning it a color gradient and overlaying it on top of the other two which I converted to RGB with pseudogreen much like HLA processing but in the end conceded defeat because the cost was losing color distinction between water and man made structures. Geck 0, Pros 1
As the Rolling Stones sing... "You can't always get what you want." That applies to :ninja: geckos also. :yes: :mrgreen: :lol2:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by neufer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:16 am

Click to play embedded YouTube video.
  • Romeo and Juliet Act 3, Scene 2
JULIET: Come, gentle night, come, loving, black-brow'd night,
  • Give me my Romeo; and, when he shall die,
    Take him and cut him out in little stars,
    And he will make the face of heaven so fine
    That all the world will be in love with night
    And pay no worship to the garish sun.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by geckzilla » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:59 am

Garish colors? You don't say! I hated this image so much that I downloaded the largest format available and tinkered with the individual channels. I got it looking a lot better aesthetically and gave the vegetation (red) greater depth by assigning it a color gradient and overlaying it on top of the other two which I converted to RGB with pseudogreen much like HLA processing but in the end conceded defeat because the cost was losing color distinction between water and man made structures. Geck 0, Pros 1

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Chris Peterson » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:19 am

geckzilla wrote:
Bill RSaturn Galaxy wrote:Is there anything showing Earth in a similar manner. I wonder what we would see if we saw Earth rendered in exaggerated colors to better contrast different surface features? Great video. I like it almost as much as the one from a few years back that showed Earth's moon shift through its phases.
It's arguable that you wouldn't want Earth's surface features exaggerated because it is already so interesting. Seeing it in its natural, unadulterated state would probably be preferable to many. Looking at mercury is sort of like looking at our moon except it doesn't even have those familiar maria which we imagine to be many things. It's no wonder someone chose to emphasize the colors to help Mercury's naturally indiscernible features pop out and become apparent.
For the whole Earth, I'd agree (although multichannel Earth observation satellites usually portray things in rather garish colors). But locally, aerial and satellite imagery of the Earth are enhanced the same way all the time. Geologists do it to distinguish the makeup of areas of sand and rock. Archaeologists do it to detect subsurface artifacts. Ecologists do it to enhance plant structure in forests.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by neufer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:12 am

geckzilla wrote:
It's arguable that you wouldn't want Earth's surface features exaggerated because it is already so interesting. Seeing it in its natural, unadulterated state would probably be preferable to many. Looking at mercury is sort of like looking at our moon except it doesn't even have those familiar maria which we imagine to be many things. It's no wonder someone chose to emphasize the colors to help Mercury's naturally indiscernible features pop out and become apparent.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by geckzilla » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:34 pm

Bill RSaturn Galaxy wrote:Is there anything showing Earth in a similar manner. I wonder what we would see if we saw Earth rendered in exaggerated colors to better contrast different surface features? Great video. I like it almost as much as the one from a few years back that showed Earth's moon shift through its phases.
It's arguable that you wouldn't want Earth's surface features exaggerated because it is already so interesting. Seeing it in its natural, unadulterated state would probably be preferable to many. Looking at mercury is sort of like looking at our moon except it doesn't even have those familiar maria which we imagine to be many things. It's no wonder someone chose to emphasize the colors to help Mercury's naturally indiscernible features pop out and become apparent.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Bill RSaturn Galaxy » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:10 pm

Is there anything showing Earth in a similar manner. I wonder what we would see if we saw Earth rendered in exaggerated colors to better contrast different surface features? Great video. I like it almost as much as the one from a few years back that showed Earth's moon shift through its phases.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by BDanielMayfield » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:07 pm

Indigo_Sunrise wrote: I found the video very interesting, if a bit fast. Is that so it mimics the actual speed that Mercury spins?
I too found the video’s rotation rate far too fast to really enjoy taking in Mercury’s features. And the vid’s speed has nothing to do at all with Mercury’s rotation rate. Mercury has the 2nd slowest planetary rotation rate in the solar system (after Venus). It’s sidereal rotation period is 58.6 days, or about 2/3rds of its 88 day long year.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by stephen63 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:06 pm

Skytreker wrote:That's great, but can we have in in normal color please?
Google
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/ ... IM_ID=7543

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Skytreker » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:50 pm

That's great, but can we have in in normal color please?

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Beyond » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:31 pm

I like the 'exaggerated' colors. It gives it Pizzazz :!:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by stephen63 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:07 pm

Stendec wrote:This is interesting, but during the first 3 seconds and the last 3 seconds of the video a section comes into view at the top of the picture which shows an obvious gap in the photo montage. It seems that this video does not represent the completed mapping spoken of in the article.
That's not a gap. That's where the underground explosion occurred on April 1st. Part of the planet was blown into space. :lol2:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by saturno2 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:26 am

Very good video
It is the product of thousands images
The surface of Mercury is different than others planets of
Solar System

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by orin stepanek » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:12 am

Neat video; I liked it! 8-) :D :thumb_up: :thumb_up: :yes:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Indigo_Sunrise » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:54 am

madtom, I'm not sure what you mean by 'all the bits rotating and slipping'...?
The video shows planet Mercury rotating. What exactly do you mean by 'slipping'? Maybe your video player needs updating...? Just a thought/suggestion.

I found the video very interesting, if a bit fast. Is that so it mimics the actual speed that Mercury spins?

:wink:

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by madtom1999 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:02 am

That was horrible - it looked like jelly or Jupiter with all the bits rotating and slipping.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by geckzilla » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:48 am

Stendec wrote:This is interesting, but during the first 3 seconds and the last 3 seconds of the video a section comes into view at the top of the picture which shows an obvious gap in the photo montage. It seems that this video does not represent the completed mapping spoken of in the article.
Looks to me more like that particular part is in black and white and hence did not receive any color emphasis.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Stendec » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:25 am

This is interesting, but during the first 3 seconds and the last 3 seconds of the video a section comes into view at the top of the picture which shows an obvious gap in the photo montage. It seems that this video does not represent the completed mapping spoken of in the article.

Re: APOD: All of Mercury (2013 Jun 12)

by Boomer12k » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:20 am

Nice Vid... :D

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