APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

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Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by alter-ego » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:30 am

Yup. the image looks pretty distorted in that corner. Since southern RI was my old stomping grounds, I'll mention that it is not entirely cut off. My birth city, Westerly, is the last little dot visible on coastline at the lower right.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by rstevenson » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:30 pm

davepotter515 wrote:There seems to be a disconnect at the Block Island end of Long Island. Did someone paste two mosaic pieces together incorrectly, removing the entire state of Rhode Island? Cape Cod seems to be too close to Long Island.
Yes, RH has been cut off, but it hasn't been replaced with anything else. It's simply outside the right edge of the picture.

If you open a map and draw a straight line from about Block Island to just east of Ottawa, that's the approximate right edge of the picture. Ottawa is the most northerly bright blob along the right edge of the pic. What you're perceiving as Cape Cod is, I think, the Hwy 95 area up towards Warwick. The brighter area above and to the left of that looks to me like the New Haven-Hartford-Springfield area.

Rob

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by davepotter515 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:39 pm

There seems to be a disconnect at the Block Island end of Long Island. Did someone paste two mosaic pieces together incorrectly, removing the entire state of Rhode Island? Cape Cod seems to be too close to Long Island.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by redstar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:28 pm

Noticed bright Jupiter and Aldebaran above Lake Erie

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by solserenade » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:00 am

Bill C wrote:Just below the Tidewater lights are the lights of Kitty Hawk where one century ago man first left the Earth in flight.
What are the Tidewater lights? And by "lights of Kitty Hawk", do you mean lights of a town Kitty Hawk? (or the site itself)

Do you mean right above the lower-right solar-panel? The mass of light to the south of Kitty Hawk, on the coast, confuses me.

thanks.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by solserenade » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:37 am

StargeezerJack wrote:Appropriate. One day after Darkened Cities, an artist's view of nighttime over large cities, the APOD is a real image of nighttime Earth: overwhelming light pollution and a sky few people see anymore. Thank you APOD editors for showing us two possible futures. Ah, but which one will we choose? I choose dark skies and starlight. You? Will we learn in time to save the Milky Way? Or will we allow the corporations and the money-mongers amongst us to dominate and control us all? Ask questions. See Answers. Earth First In Things, Thoughts, Deeds, Decisions.

http://www.darkskyinitiative.org
Right on - Great post!

I choose darkness. It's a battle (though I'm blessed, relatively, with rather dark skies) - but my point:

I have no exterior lights on timers, etc. - "safety light" :evil:

Every external light (only 3) are low-watt and shaded carefully to project only down and an angle. *Including* respect for neighbors (even if a valley away) who are "horizontal" from my position.

I'm one of those saps that gets sad thinking about people unable to ever get a sense of the Earth even being in space - that it rotates, travels along, etc. - maybe even stop and think about WHY? ("What's up with the Ecliptic? I go to SuperCuts".)

Not to mention simple navigation, sublime beauty, perspective (a t.v. alternative), peace, Aurora/spaceweather/optics, etc.

......

Ya put up a thick enough veil, all that is no longer available, save for old pictures.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by saturno2 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:14 am

Yuri Gagarin, the first human in the space
The Universe is of all
The knowledge of the Universe, too

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by geckzilla » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:01 pm

It's only one paragraph long, henry.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by henrystar » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:43 pm

"Constellations of lights connecting the densely populated cities along the Atlantic east coast of the United States" should be the FIRST phrase of the caption. Forgive me, you the creators should not bury the news. You do this almost always! Cure yourselves please!

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by emc » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:23 pm

I have a good friend named Yuri, maybe that's a popular Russian name.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by emc » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:19 pm

Happy first man in space day!

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by alter-ego » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:27 pm

rstevenson wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:Do you think the vandalism you experienced was completely random, or directed specifically towards you or your neighbors?
Not random, but not personal either. The sidewalk out front is a commonly used one, so it's more a matter of opportunity. I'm going to look into the sort of motion-activated light that Art mentions above. A light that turns on suddenly is probably even more of a deterrent, if I can localize the area that is being sensed.

Rob
I recommend them. During a rash of break-ins in our neighborhood over the last few months, I installed a set of LED motion-sensitive lights. Not 150W-class illumination, but enough intensity where you want it. I like them. They have a threshold sensitivity adjustment too, so that small animals don't set them off.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by rstevenson » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:17 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:Do you think the vandalism you experienced was completely random, or directed specifically towards you or your neighbors?
Not random, but not personal either. The sidewalk out front is a commonly used one, so it's more a matter of opportunity. I'm going to look into the sort of motion-activated light that Art mentions above. A light that turns on suddenly is probably even more of a deterrent, if I can localize the area that is being sensed.

Rob

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by LocalColor » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:56 pm

April 12th Holiday - Yuri's Night - Commemoration of Yuri Gagarin being the first human in space.

Image

Moscow at night.

Also:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m22e0 ... 1_1280.jpg

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by neufer » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:33 pm

rstevenson wrote:
Chris Peterson wrote:
While the subject has never been tested rigorously, there is strong anecdotal evidence that darkness reduces crime, not increases it.
I'll see that anecdote and raise you one. When I stopped turning off our front house lights when I went to bed, the minor acts of vandalism that had been damaging my garden, the front of my house, and my car, ceased. At least our local idiots don't like light. (Probably they fear the increased light would allow them to be identified on video, which is, I hope, true.)
http://www.gadgetshack.com/motion-activated-lighting.html wrote:
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Flood Light Motion Light Adapter

<<Often times, the easiest solution is the best solution. This is definitely the case with our Flood Light Motion Light Adapter. Simply screw the socket into your existing flood lamp, attach the motion sensor to the wall, and screw in a bulb. It really is that easy!

Our Flood Light Motion Light Adapter can use a flood light up to 150 Watts in power. It allows you to select how long a light remains lit and also has a day/night sensor, which saves you electricity when you do not need a light activated.

Having continuous security lighting around your home or business can be costly and inefficient. Adding our motion-activated lighting will allow your security lights to turn on automatically only when they are needed.>>

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by Chris Peterson » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:29 pm

rstevenson wrote:I'll see that anecdote and raise you one. When I stopped turning off our front house lights when I went to bed, the minor acts of vandalism that had been damaging my garden, the front of my house, and my car, ceased. At least our local idiots don't like light. (Probably they fear the increased light would allow them to be identified on video, which is, I hope, true.)
The discussions I've seen have centered on more serious crime, particularly violent crime like muggings and other street assaults, as well as burglary.

Do you think the vandalism you experienced was completely random, or directed specifically towards you or your neighbors?

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by rstevenson » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:59 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:While the subject has never been tested rigorously, there is strong anecdotal evidence that darkness reduces crime, not increases it.
I'll see that anecdote and raise you one. When I stopped turning off our front house lights when I went to bed, the minor acts of vandalism that had been damaging my garden, the front of my house, and my car, ceased. At least our local idiots don't like light. (Probably they fear the increased light would allow them to be identified on video, which is, I hope, true.)

Rob

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by neufer » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:27 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
rstevenson wrote:
Yes, light polution is a problem. But the same lights that cause the problem also help prevent vandalism and other crimes. So the solution is not to turn off the lights. As is often true, a problem created by technology requires a more subtle technological solution. We need to find a way to light our nights without obliterating the night sky.
While the subject has never been tested rigorously, there is strong anecdotal evidence that darkness reduces crime, not increases it. Criminals generally prefer to work in the light, like everybody else. It is also very likely that street lighting produces more accidents than it eliminates. And the evidence is solid at this point that human exposure to light at night is unhealthy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventure_of_the_Six_Napoleons wrote:
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  • The Adventure of the Six Napoleons
“I wish to call your attention very particularly to the position of this house in the garden of which the bust was destroyed.”

Lestrade looked about him.

“It was an empty house, and so he knew that he would not be disturbed in the garden.”

“Yes, but there is another empty house farther up the street which he must have passed before he came to this one. Why did he not break it there, since it is evident that every yard that he carried it increased the risk of someone meeting him?”

“I give it up,” said Lestrade.

Holmes pointed to the street lamp above our heads.

“He could see what he was doing here and he could not there. That was his reason.”

“By Jove! That’s true,” said the detective. “Now that I come to think of it, Dr. Barnicot’s bust was broken not far from his red lamp. Well, Mr. Holmes, what are we to do with that fact?”

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by Chris Peterson » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:06 pm

rstevenson wrote:Yes, light polution is a problem. But the same lights that cause the problem also help prevent vandalism and other crimes. So the solution is not to turn off the lights. As is often true, a problem created by technology requires a more subtle technological solution. We need to find a way to light our nights without obliterating the night sky.
While the subject has never been tested rigorously, there is strong anecdotal evidence that darkness reduces crime, not increases it. Criminals generally prefer to work in the light, like everybody else. It is also very likely that street lighting produces more accidents than it eliminates. And the evidence is solid at this point that human exposure to light at night is unhealthy.

Of course, the solution is not to turn off all the lights. But many of them can and should be turned off, and when we've reduced the lighting to the minimum that we actually require, we can make sure that those lights point only at what needs to be lit- not the sky.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by neufer » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:41 pm

Redbone wrote:
I'm on the map!
It's really not a good likeness, Freddy.

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by Redbone » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:30 pm

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by rstevenson » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:27 pm

Yes, light polution is a problem. But the same lights that cause the problem also help prevent vandalism and other crimes. So the solution is not to turn off the lights. As is often true, a problem created by technology requires a more subtle technological solution. We need to find a way to light our nights without obliterating the night sky.

Rob

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by BMAONE23 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:59 pm

and because the earth isn't basking in sunlight, flooding the CCD with photons, there are stars in the sky

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by StargeezerJack » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:06 pm

Appropriate. One day after Darkened Cities, an artist's view of nighttime over large cities, the APOD is a real image of nighttime Earth: overwhelming light pollution and a sky few people see anymore. Thank you APOD editors for showing us two possible futures. Ah, but which one will we choose? I choose dark skies and starlight. You? Will we learn in time to save the Milky Way? Or will we allow the corporations and the money-mongers amongst us to dominate and control us all? Ask questions. See Answers. Earth First In Things, Thoughts, Deeds, Decisions.

http://www.darkskyinitiative.org

Re: APOD: Yuri's Planet (2013 Apr 12)

by Bill C » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:05 am

Just below the Tidewater lights are the lights of Kitty Hawk where one century ago man first left the Earth in flight.

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