by Joe Stieber » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:21 am
Chris Peterson wrote:luigi wrote:Are you sure Chris? I had the idea that Venus is on a southern declination most of the time as Mercury is (I'm sure about mercury) but maybe my thinking was wrong
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I don't see how this could be, either for Venus or for Mercury. The planets all orbit on planes tilted some small amount with respect to each other, with a common intersection point at the Sun. So with respect to the Earth's orbital plane, the other planets must spend half their time above it and half below (ignoring the slight impact of orbital eccentricity). The only way I could see one hemisphere or the other having a better view would be if the planets were in orbital resonance with the Earth... which they are not. Certainly, there can be a sort of aliasing between the orbits, such that we cycle through periods where planets are higher in one hemisphere or the other, but I don't see anyway this could be the case over the long term.
From this Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(p ... bservation
"Mercury is more often easily visible from Earth’s Southern Hemisphere than from its Northern Hemisphere; this is because its maximum possible elongations west of the Sun always occur when it is early autumn in the Southern Hemisphere, while its maximum possible eastern elongations happen during late winter in the Southern Hemisphere. In both of these cases, the angle Mercury strikes with the ecliptic is maximized, allowing it to rise several hours before the Sun in the former instance and not set until several hours after sundown in the latter in countries located at southern temperate zone latitudes, such as Argentina and New Zealand. By contrast, at northern temperate latitudes, Mercury is never above the horizon of a more-or-less fully dark night sky."
Similar explanations for Mercury appear in the RASC Observer's Handbook and Guy Ottewell's Astronomical Calendar. The Wiki article doesn't explain why it happens, but Ottewell says "The reason is that the planet [Mercury] is then farthest out from the sun, near its eccentric orbit's aphelion, which is in the part of the orbit tilted southward in relation to the earth." Note that Mercury has a considerably higher eccentricity (0.21) and inclination (7.0 degrees) than any of the other planets (now that Pluto is excluded).
Venus has an eccentricity of 0.007 and an inclination of 3.4 degrees. I've never seen any reports of such a visibility asymetry for Venus.
[quote="Chris Peterson"][quote="luigi"]Are you sure Chris? I had the idea that Venus is on a southern declination most of the time as Mercury is (I'm sure about mercury) but maybe my thinking was wrong :D[/quote]
I don't see how this could be, either for Venus or for Mercury. The planets all orbit on planes tilted some small amount with respect to each other, with a common intersection point at the Sun. So with respect to the Earth's orbital plane, the other planets must spend half their time above it and half below (ignoring the slight impact of orbital eccentricity). The only way I could see one hemisphere or the other having a better view would be if the planets were in orbital resonance with the Earth... which they are not. Certainly, there can be a sort of aliasing between the orbits, such that we cycle through periods where planets are higher in one hemisphere or the other, but I don't see anyway this could be the case over the long term.[/quote]
From this Wikipedia article:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(planet)#Observation[/url]
"Mercury is more often easily visible from Earth’s Southern Hemisphere than from its Northern Hemisphere; this is because its maximum possible elongations west of the Sun always occur when it is early autumn in the Southern Hemisphere, while its maximum possible eastern elongations happen during late winter in the Southern Hemisphere. In both of these cases, the angle Mercury strikes with the ecliptic is maximized, allowing it to rise several hours before the Sun in the former instance and not set until several hours after sundown in the latter in countries located at southern temperate zone latitudes, such as Argentina and New Zealand. By contrast, at northern temperate latitudes, Mercury is never above the horizon of a more-or-less fully dark night sky."
Similar explanations for Mercury appear in the RASC Observer's Handbook and Guy Ottewell's Astronomical Calendar. The Wiki article doesn't explain why it happens, but Ottewell says "The reason is that the planet [Mercury] is then farthest out from the sun, near its eccentric orbit's aphelion, which is in the part of the orbit tilted southward in relation to the earth." Note that Mercury has a considerably higher eccentricity (0.21) and inclination (7.0 degrees) than any of the other planets (now that Pluto is excluded).
Venus has an eccentricity of 0.007 and an inclination of 3.4 degrees. I've never seen any reports of such a visibility asymetry for Venus.