APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

Post a reply


This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.
Smilies
:D :) :ssmile: :( :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol2: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll: :wink: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen:
View more smilies

BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[url] is ON
Smilies are ON

Topic review
   

Expand view Topic review: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by jessy27 » Thu May 17, 2012 5:55 pm

Rohan,
I grew up in Alaska and as far as I know there's no way to predict when an aurora borealis will happen except it
happens more often in the middle of winter when it's coldest. Green is most common but I have been there
when the whole sky was lit up with all the colors or the rainbow. awesome :D

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Madaya » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:41 am

Ahh, I get it, because I am at a higher latitude (~33 deg south), I mostly see the 'upper' red regions of the Aurora = solved.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by wbd » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:57 pm

terrastro wrote:I use these two web pages as a guide:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/OverviewS.html
Thank you!

Cheers,
Rohan

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by terrastro » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:19 pm

wbd wrote:
terrastro wrote:It was my first visual Aurora and I was overwhelmed with emotions.

Alex Cherney
Awesome imagery Alex, congratulations!

Oh man, I wish I had have known about this. I've always wanted to see an aurora (it's #1 on my 'bucket list') and I only live a few kilometres away from Flinders in the outer SE suburbs of Melbourne! :clap:
I always thought I'd have to travel to very northern latitudes - Canada, Scandinavia, etc. - to see one, but here's one in my own backyard and I didn't even know about it. :(
Is there any way of knowing (weather permitting of course) when and where auroras might be visible and if so, are there any websites that publish such information (I have looked at http://www.iceinspace.com.au a couple of times - would that be the best resource for such information)?

Cheers,
Rohan
I use these two web pages as a guide:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/OverviewS.html

Cheers,
Alex

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Flase » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:57 pm

Chris Peterson wrote:
Flase wrote:Of course you're also looking through a lot of atmosphere at the horizon. The Sun also appears red.
Yeah, but these colors are produced by narrow emission lines. No amount of atmosphere can make a narrow green line look red- all it can to is reduce the brightness.
It probably did that, then, meaning any green was lost.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by wbd » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:47 pm

terrastro wrote:It was my first visual Aurora and I was overwhelmed with emotions.

Alex Cherney
Awesome imagery Alex, congratulations!

Oh man, I wish I had have known about this. I've always wanted to see an aurora (it's #1 on my 'bucket list') and I only live a few kilometres away from Flinders in the outer SE suburbs of Melbourne! :clap:
I always thought I'd have to travel to very northern latitudes - Canada, Scandinavia, etc. - to see one, but here's one in my own backyard and I didn't even know about it. :(
Is there any way of knowing (weather permitting of course) when and where auroras might be visible and if so, are there any websites that publish such information (I have looked at http://www.iceinspace.com.au a couple of times - would that be the best resource for such information)?

Cheers,
Rohan

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Chris Peterson » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:38 pm

Flase wrote:Imagine the night sky in a couple of hundred years. Such a timelapse video would look like a web of white lines of satellite paths.
There might even be space stations big enough to see clearly with your naked eye.
Unless we're back in the stone ages by then <g>.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Chris Peterson » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:35 pm

Flase wrote:Of course you're also looking through a lot of atmosphere at the horizon. The Sun also appears red.
Yeah, but these colors are produced by narrow emission lines. No amount of atmosphere can make a narrow green line look red- all it can to is reduce the brightness.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Flase » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:34 pm

Imagine the night sky in a couple of hundred years. Such a timelapse video would look like a web of white lines of satellite paths.
There might even be space stations big enough to see clearly with your naked eye.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Flase » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:25 pm

The video has a lot of satellites whizzing past. There might have also been one or two meteors.
We have a lot of space traffic up there, don't we? No wonder space junk is a concern.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Flase » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:13 pm

Of course you're also looking through a lot of atmosphere at the horizon. The Sun also appears red.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by neufer » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:33 am

.
But I was thinking of a plan
To dye one's whiskers green,
And always use so large a fan
That they could not be seen.
So, having no reply to give
To what Scabulus said,
I cried, "Come, tell me how you live!"
And thumped him on the head.
Scabulus wrote:
It is possible that it did glow green, but the sea level observer couldn't see it because of the curvature of the earth. In the summer, I can see thunderstorms a couple hundred miles away, but I only see the tops. In the time lapse video of the aurora, some green can be observed, but it is concentrated on the horizon. It is possible that during that time the aurora was closer, thus making the green visible to the observer.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Scabulus » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:44 am

It is possible that it did glow green, but the sea level observer couldn't see it because of the curvature of the earth. In the summer, I can see thunderstorms a couple hundred miles away, but I only see the tops. In the time lapse video of the aurora, some green can be observed, but it is concentrated on the horizon. It is possible that during that time the aurora was closer, thus making the green visible to the observer.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by bystander » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:52 pm

wolf kotenberg wrote:Is it possible to " git " a picture like this for us in the northern latitutes ? Maybe a poster size ?
Contact: Alex Cherney (Terrastro)

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by wolf kotenberg » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:48 pm

Is it possible to " git " a picture like this for us in the northern latitutes ? Maybe a poster size ?

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by BobStein-VisiBone » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:41 pm

neufer wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28astronomy%29 wrote: <<Oxygen is unusual in terms of its return to ground state: it can take three quarters of a second to emit green light and up to two minutes to emit red. Collisions with other atoms or molecules will absorb the excitation energy and prevent emission. Because the very top of the atmosphere has a higher percentage of oxygen and is sparsely distributed such collisions are rare enough to allow time for oxygen to emit red.
Where is the thumbs-up button? Thanks, Alfred E. Neufer, this is what I came here to find out. :thumb_up:

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Guest » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:00 pm

Dan wrote:Does anyone know what the orange line in the center of the horizon is?
it's a ship

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Wolf Kotenberg » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:43 am

If this was a negative, would you spot more details ?

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Dan » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:30 am

Does anyone know what the orange line in the center of the horizon is?

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by TNT » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:33 am

Now here's a change...an aurora australis instead of a borealis. Interesting.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by saturn2 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:23 pm

Red Aurora and others objects in the sky.
This image is very good. The proyection is very good, too.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by FloridaMike » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:54 pm

RJN wrote:Added rollover. Fixed stuff. Sorry for the late additions. - RJN
Thank you for all you do.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by neufer » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:59 pm

Byork wrote:
Auroras generally colored blue and green in the northern hemisphere and red in the southern hemisphere ..!
Aurora are typically red at very high altitudes and green at lower altitudes.

These aurora are so far away from the observer that the low altitude green colors
are below the horizon (or, at least, absorbed by the troposphere).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28astronomy%29 wrote: <<Oxygen is unusual in terms of its return to ground state: it can take three quarters of a second to emit green light and up to two minutes to emit red. Collisions with other atoms or molecules will absorb the excitation energy and prevent emission. Because the very top of the atmosphere has a higher percentage of oxygen and is sparsely distributed such collisions are rare enough to allow time for oxygen to emit red. Collisions become more frequent progressing down into the atmosphere, so that red emissions do not have time to happen, and eventually even green light emissions are prevented.

This is why there is a colour differential with altitude; at high altitude oxygen red dominates, then oxygen green and nitrogen blue/red, then finally nitrogen blue/red when collisions prevent oxygen from emitting anything. Green is the most common of all auroras. Behind it is pink, a mixture of light green and red, followed by pure red, yellow (a mixture of red and green), and lastly pure blue.>>

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by Chris Peterson » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:13 pm

Byork wrote:Auroras generally colored blue and green in the northern hemisphere and red in the southern hemisphere ..!
Not so. Aurora are typically green near the poles, and when energies are high enough to push the auroral oval down to lower latitudes, red is sometimes seen there. It doesn't matter which hemisphere this occurs in.

Re: APOD: Red Aurora Over Australia (2012 Feb 01)

by spudcon » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:50 pm

Time lapse movie was the best I've seen, and the music was excellent also. I seldom see auroras here, it seems solar storms usually cause cloudy skies here.

Top