by neufer » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:05 pm
Beyond wrote:
So then, mr. neufer, could you give me a hint as to why the "seal" was included in your post about Orion
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http://www.calodges.org/scrl/monthly/edinburg.htm wrote:
_A Visit to Edinburgh and Lodge Canongate Kilwinning #2._ by Wor. James T. Watson, Jr.
<<Edinburgh, the second largest city in Scotland, was named in honor of Edwin of Northumbria, an Anglian king who built a fort there in the 600's. On the site of that fort now stands Edinburgh Castle on Castle Rock. The "Royal Mile" leads from this castle to Holyrood Castle, home of Mary, Queen of Scots, from 1561-1567. From this Canongate run St. John's Close and St. John's Street. From both these entries, one gains admittance to the Chapel of St. John, meeting place of Lodge Canongate #2, Royal Arch Chapter #56 and the Preceptory and Priory of St. John Canongate Kilwinning. The Annual Festival is held on St. John the Baptist's Day, June 24th. [Edward de Vere died June 24, 1604.]
While dating its early history to King David's Charter, the Lodge identified itself with the general body of Freemasons in Scotland in 1677 by accepting a warrant from the Lodge at Kilwinning in Ayrshire, which was exercising the functions of a Grand Lodge. The initiative in forming the Grand Lodge of Scotland was taken by this Lodge.
One of its members, William St. Clair of Rosslyn became first Grand Master. The Lodge motto,
"Post Nubile Phoebus" (After the clouds the sun), refers to dawn and ancient sun worship.
The present Lodge building was consecrated in December, 1736, and is the oldest building in the world built for Masonic purposes. On
entering the Lodge room, one is instantly drawn drawn to what appear to be four alcoves contining statues, two on the north wall and two
on the south. When approached, they are found to be cleverly executed mural paintings of:
- Lord Byron and Sir Walter Scott on the north wall and
Robert Burns and [Englishman
] William Shakespeare on the south.>>
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Hugh Holland's dedication in the 1623 First Folio:
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U P o n t h e L i n e s a n d L i f e o f
T H e F a m o u s S c e n i c k e P o e t
[M A S T E R] W I L L I A M S H A K E S P E
[A] R E T h o s e h a n d s w h i c h y o u
[S] O c l a p t g o n o w a n d w r i n g Y
[O] u B r i t a i n e s b r a v e f o r d o
[N] e a r e S h a k e s p e a r e s d a y e
[S]
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- Upon the Lines and Life of the Famous
Scenicke Poet, Master W I L L I A M
S H A K E S P E A R E
Those hands, which you so clapt, go now, and wring
You Britaines brave; for done are Shakespeares dayes: _____
His dayes are done, that made the dainty Playes,
Which made the Globe of heav'n and earth to ring.
Dry'de is that veine, dry'd is the Thespian Spring,
Turn'd all to teares, and *PHOEBUS CLOUDS HIS RAYES*
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http://www.baconsocietyinc.org/baconiana/baconiana2/carr_review.htm wrote:
_WHO WROTE DON QUlXOTE?_ by FRANCIS CARR
<<The design on the title page of the first edition of 1605 shows a hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand of a man who is hidden from view. Around the arm and the bird is the inscription
Post tenebras spero lucem, 'After darkness I hope for light', a phrase from Job which was adopted as the motto of Calvinism, and later of the entire Protestant Reformation—an incongruous wording to have on a work issuing from a supposedly Catholic country.>>
http://www.sirbacon.org/whowrotedqwalkerreview.htm wrote:
<<As further evidence that the real [DQ] author is concealed Carr points to the title page of the first Spanish edition of Don Quixote. The title page shows a hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand of a man who is hidden from view within a cloud. There is a lion in the picture that ostensibly symbolizes England. But who is the hidden falconer? On the border around the inner picture are the words, "
Post tenebras spero lucem", i.e., after darkness I hope for light. Signaling yet again that something is hidden here. But how can we solve this dark puzzle? Chapter 68 of the Second Part of Don Quixote gives us a clue. Don Quixote tells Sancho Panza, "
Post tenebras spero lucem", and follows the Latin words with a translation, "after darkness I expect light." It seems that the explanation has been added to help the reader, but Sancho still does not understand. The clue comes at this point. Sancho launches into a tribute to sleep, and this tribute is virtually a paraphrase of the speech about sleep in Macbeth (which appeared a few years before the publication of Don Quixote):
- Sleep that knits up the ravelled sleave of care,
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath,
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast.
(As an additional connection to the Shakespeare works it can be noted that the
"
POST TENEBRAS LUX; after darkness light" legend also appeared on the 1600 quarto edition of A Midsummer Nights Dream, printed by James Roberts).>>
[quote="Beyond"]
So then, mr. neufer, could you give me a hint as to why the "seal" was included in your post about Orion :?: :?:[/quote]
[quote=" http://www.calodges.org/scrl/monthly/edinburg.htm"]
_A Visit to Edinburgh and Lodge Canongate Kilwinning #2._ by Wor. James T. Watson, Jr.
<<Edinburgh, the second largest city in Scotland, was named in honor of Edwin of Northumbria, an Anglian king who built a fort there in the 600's. On the site of that fort now stands Edinburgh Castle on Castle Rock. The "Royal Mile" leads from this castle to Holyrood Castle, home of Mary, Queen of Scots, from 1561-1567. From this Canongate run St. John's Close and St. John's Street. From both these entries, one gains admittance to the Chapel of St. John, meeting place of Lodge Canongate #2, Royal Arch Chapter #56 and the Preceptory and Priory of St. John Canongate Kilwinning. The Annual Festival is held on St. John the Baptist's Day, June 24th. [Edward de Vere died June 24, 1604.]
While dating its early history to King David's Charter, the Lodge identified itself with the general body of Freemasons in Scotland in 1677 by accepting a warrant from the Lodge at Kilwinning in Ayrshire, which was exercising the functions of a Grand Lodge. The initiative in forming the Grand Lodge of Scotland was taken by this Lodge.
[size=135]One of its members, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosslyn_Chapel]William St. Clair of Rosslyn[/url] became first Grand Master. The Lodge motto,
"[b][i][color=#FF0000]Post Nubile Phoebus[/color][/i][/b]" ([b][i][color=#FF0000]After the clouds the sun[/color][/i][/b]), refers to dawn and ancient sun worship. [/size]
The present Lodge building was consecrated in December, 1736, and is the oldest building in the world built for Masonic purposes. On
entering the Lodge room, one is instantly drawn drawn to what appear to be four alcoves contining statues, two on the north wall and two
on the south. When approached, they are found to be cleverly executed mural paintings of:
[list][size=150][b][i][color=#FF00FF]Lord Byron and Sir Walter Scott on the north wall and
Robert Burns and[/color] [color=#00FF00][Englishman :?: ] William Shakespeare[/color] [color=#FF00FF]on the south.[/color][/i][/b][/size]>>[/list][/quote][c][b]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/b][/c]
Hugh Holland's dedication in the 1623 First Folio:
[float=right][code] U P o n t h e L i n e s a n d L i f e o f
T H e F a m o u s S c e n i c k e P o e t
[M A S T E R] W I L L I A M S H A K E S P E
[A] R E T h o s e h a n d s w h i c h y o u
[S] O c l a p t g o n o w a n d w r i n g Y
[O] u B r i t a i n e s b r a v e f o r d o
[N] e a r e S h a k e s p e a r e s d a y e
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[list][b][color=#0000FF]Upon the Lines and Life of the Famous
Scenicke Poet, Master W I L L I A M
S H A K E S P E A R E
Those hands, which you so clapt, go now, and wring
You Britaines brave; for done are Shakespeares dayes: _____ :arrow:
His dayes are done, that made the dainty Playes,
Which made the Globe of heav'n and earth to ring.
Dry'de is that veine, dry'd is the Thespian Spring,
Turn'd all to teares, and[/color] *[color=#FF0000]PHOEBUS CLOUDS HIS RAYES[/color]*[/b][/list]
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[img3="[b][color=#0000FF]THE FIRST EDITION OF DON QUIXOTE. 1605
We see a hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand
of a man hidden from view. Swirling shapes, possibly
mist, on one side only, stress the fact that
the falconer is hidden, just out of sight.
Around the arm and the bird is the inscription:[/color]
[color=#FF0000]*POST TENEBRAS SPERO LUCEM*
after darkness I hope for light.[/color][/b]"]http://www.sirbacon.org/graphics/Elingenioso.gif[/img3][/float][quote=" http://www.baconsocietyinc.org/baconiana/baconiana2/carr_review.htm"]
_WHO WROTE DON QUlXOTE?_ by FRANCIS CARR
<<The design on the title page of the first edition of 1605 shows a hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand of a man who is hidden from view. Around the arm and the bird is the inscription[b][color=#FF0000] Post tenebras spero lucem[/color][/b], 'After darkness I hope for light', a phrase from Job which was adopted as the motto of Calvinism, and later of the entire Protestant Reformation—an incongruous wording to have on a work issuing from a supposedly Catholic country.>>[/quote][quote=" http://www.sirbacon.org/whowrotedqwalkerreview.htm"]
<<As further evidence that the real [DQ] author is concealed Carr points to the title page of the first Spanish edition of Don Quixote. The title page shows a hooded falcon resting on the gloved hand of a man who is hidden from view within a cloud. There is a lion in the picture that ostensibly symbolizes England. But who is the hidden falconer? On the border around the inner picture are the words, "[b][color=#FF0000]Post tenebras spero lucem[/color][/b]", i.e., after darkness I hope for light. Signaling yet again that something is hidden here. But how can we solve this dark puzzle? Chapter 68 of the Second Part of Don Quixote gives us a clue. Don Quixote tells Sancho Panza, "[b][color=#FF0000]Post tenebras spero lucem[/color][/b]", and follows the Latin words with a translation, "after darkness I expect light." It seems that the explanation has been added to help the reader, but Sancho still does not understand. The clue comes at this point. Sancho launches into a tribute to sleep, and this tribute is virtually a paraphrase of the speech about sleep in Macbeth (which appeared a few years before the publication of Don Quixote):
[list][b][i][color=#0000FF] Sleep that knits up the ravelled sleave of care,
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath,
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast.[/color][/i][/b][/list]
(As an additional connection to the Shakespeare works it can be noted that the
"[b][color=#FF0000]POST TENEBRAS LUX; after darkness light[/color][/b]" legend also appeared on the 1600 quarto edition of A Midsummer Nights Dream, printed by James Roberts).>>[/quote]