APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

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Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by mtbdudex » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:56 pm

re-booted.....

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by RickM » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:23 pm

Bernard wrote:The physics of rainbows require the sun to be behind the observer, not on the left side. Therefore, this picture must be a superimposition of several shots.
Since we're seeing the left end of the rainbow, the sun is obviously behind and left of the observer. It could easily enough be peeking through (unseen) clouds to illuminate the buildings.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by neufer » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:12 pm

DavidLeodis wrote:
It was sad to read through a link in the explanation that "Eric Nguyen passed away on September 9, 2007 at the age of twenty-nine".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Nguyen wrote:
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<<Eric Michael Nguyen (January 2, 1978-September 9, 2007) was an American professional storm chaser, meteorologist, and photographer from Keller, Texas, United States. In 2008 Nguyen (pronounced "win" is the most common Vietnamese family name) released his first book of photography titled Adventures in Tornado Alley: The Storm Chasers with co-author Mike Hollingshead.

Eric Michael Isbell (last name changed to Nguyen after marriage) was born in Newport Beach, California near Los Angeles, California in 1978 and raised in Keller, Texas after his parents relocated soon after his birth. Eric was strongly interested in severe storms and tornadoes as a child and became heavily intrigued with mobile instrumentation systems for weather data collection. Eric began studying meteorology at the University of Oklahoma in 2001. He graduated with a BS in Meteorology in May 2005.

In 1994, Nguyen began chasing storms in Texas and soon expanded his range to the larger area of the central United States commonly known as Tornado Alley. Nguyen began publishing images regularly in Accord Publishing's popular annual Weather Guide Calender series, Smithsonian Magazine, NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day, as well as Weatherwise, Storm Track, UCAR Quarterly, textbooks, and other venues. His Mulvane, Kansas tornado/rainbow image is one of the most frequently licensed tornado images of all time and several other of his photos have appeared in publications and presentations around the world. Nguyen's storm and tornado photography was considered among the most expressive in the field, with a particular emphasis on unusual palettes and the use of foreground elements to create dynamic line structures in the composition. On April 21, 2007, Nguyen and his storm chasing partner, Amos Magliocco, were struck by a tornado in Tulia, Texas. Nguyen's scientific grade weather instrumentation survived the hit and measured the sharpest pressure fall ever recorded on Earth. Upon his death, hundreds of weather enthusiasts from around the world praised Nguyen's skills as a photographer and chaser in the online journal Storm Track The University of Oklahoma hosted a memorial tribute ceremony in the National Weather Center on September 22, 2007. The keynote speaker was Dr. Charles A. Doswell III. An endowed scholarship for graduate and undergraduate meteorology students was created in Nguyen's name at OU's prestigious School of Meteorology.>>

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by DavidLeodis » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:39 pm

It was sad to read through a link in the explanation that "Eric Nguyen passed away on September 9, 2007 at the age of twenty-nine".

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by saturn2 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:22 am

The study of the atmospheric phenomenos on Earth is more important.
It can to help for to save people life.
We remember that the planet Earth is part of the Universe.

Somewhere Over the Rainbow ...

by Anthony Barreiro » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:13 am

Thank you Neufer for posting the clip of Judy Garland singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." Clearly *that's* where the apod editors are slipping, in the selection of wry tangential links! ;-)

Seriously, I enjoy seeing the occasional picture of an earthly atmospheric phenomenon. Unless you're using a space telescope, you're looking through Earth's atmosphere. And Earth's atmosphere can teach us a lot about atmospheres more generally. And, some of these pictures, like this one, are either hella cool, or beautiful, or both. And, like Scoop Nisker used to say, "if you don't like the news, go out and make some of your own."

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by bystander » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:07 pm

Case wrote:Usually the click-through image is of higher resolution than the embedded image. This time it is reversed: 900x1100 vs. 540x810 px. It seems the higher resolution version is a blow-up of the smaller one, and original aspect ratio wasn't maintained (a bit stretched horizontally).
And chopped vertically.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by bystander » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:04 pm

RGWare wrote:It looks like powerline wires are down and the roof is off the structure. Are we looking in from behind the tornado after the funnel has passed?
Mikey wrote:That's what it looks like to me too. Zoomed in you can, definitely, see downed power lines going all the way across the circular drive. There, also, appears to be a snapped tree trunk in the front yard. Maybe the smoke column is the orphaned tip of the tornado as it receded into the cloud.
The garage is definitely leaning to the right, and it looks as if the left side of the house is collapsed.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by Mikey » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:06 pm

RGWare wrote:It looks like powerline wires are down and the roof is off the structure. Are we looking in from behind the tornado after the funnel has passed?

Thanks, RGW
That's what it looks like to me too. Zoomed in you can, definitely, see downed power lines going all the way across the circular drive. There, also, appears to be a snapped tree trunk in the front yard.
Maybe the smoke column is the orphaned tip of the tornado as it receded into the cloud.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by Chris Peterson » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:53 pm

drollere wrote:the APOD editorial team has really slipped down the slope of pretty pictures in recent months. i'd prefer that the team first asked themselves, "what specifically does this picture of the day have to do with ... astronomy?"
Read the FAQs. Images of atmospheric phenomena on Earth have been a part of APOD since day one. Which makes sense, because there is a strong connection between APOD and NASA, and a big part of NASA's charter is studying the Earth and its atmosphere.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by drollere » Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:39 pm

looks like another perfect evening for astronomy.

the APOD editorial team has really slipped down the slope of pretty pictures in recent months. i'd prefer that the team first asked themselves, "what specifically does this picture of the day have to do with ... astronomy?"

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by Chris Peterson » Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:45 pm

Bernard wrote:The physics of rainbows require the sun to be behind the observer, not on the left side. Therefore, this picture must be a superimposition of several shots.
A rainbow is centered on the antisolar point, which means the Sun must be behind and to the left of the camera... just where the shadows in the image place it.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by Chris Peterson » Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:43 pm

neufer wrote:
bto wrote:
If you see a tornado, in your car--drive away from it at right angles,
That only makes sense if:
  • 1) the tornado is coming directly towards you
    2) and there is a road at right angles.
Or if you're not a storm chaser!

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by NoelC » Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:26 pm

APOD Robot wrote:The scene might have been considered serene if it weren't for the tornado.
Isn't that a bit like saying "The serial killer might have been considered a nice guy if it weren't for all the murders."? :D

It's an amazing image; certainly a scene that must have struck terror into the heart when viewed in person.

-Noel

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by neufer » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:45 pm

bystander wrote:
This is a real photo taken June 12, 2004, in Mulvane, Kansas, by storm chaser Eric Nguyen.
See this and other amazing storm photography on his homepage, www.mesoscale.ws.
http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheFoundation.html wrote:
  • Jerry: Oh God.

    George: What?

    Jerry: It's Dolores.

    George: Who?

    Jerry: Mulva.

    George: I thought Mulva hated you.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by RGWare » Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:42 pm

It looks like powerline wires are down and the roof is off the structure. Are we looking in from behind the tornado after the funnel has passed?

Thanks, RGW

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by Case » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:52 pm

Usually the click-through image is of higher resolution than the embedded image. This time it is reversed: 900x1100 vs. 540x810 px. It seems the higher resolution version is a blow-up of the smaller one, and original aspect ratio wasn't maintained (a bit stretched horizontally).

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by astrosnake » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:42 pm

Atmospheric-phenomena Picture of the Day? :|

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by Bernard » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:25 pm

The physics of rainbows require the sun to be behind the observer, not on the left side. Therefore, this picture must be a superimposition of several shots.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by orin stepanek » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:18 pm

Do you see the person in the aqua rain slicker standing at the fence line by the tree? :mrgreen:

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by owlice » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:49 am

bto wrote:This is completely lame.
Nothing to do with astronomy
seems to be the third time its used
so much NEW stuff, yet we see the same tired pics

BTW...If you see a tornado, in your car--drive away from it at right angles,
Q4: Have some APOD pictures been run more than once?
A4: Yes. Many of our readers have been with us less than a year and are unaware of some really spectacular or important astronomy pictures. New information about old pictures is becoming available over the WWW. The text and links for rerun pictures will make use of this newly available information. So although the picture might be old, some of the text and links of each APOD will be new. Also, more web surfers have larger bandwidth connections, which allows us to post higher-resolution image files that can be transferred conveniently. Software to handle more sophisticated image file formats has also become more common, so the picture's size and/or format might be new. Lastly, rerunning APODs saves us time and helps us update our archive. In general, our rerun policy currently is to only rerun APODs more than one year old to keep the pictures relatively "new" to new APOD viewers. We will almost never rerun more than two pictures in any given week. So when you load the current APOD,it is still, most probably, a new picture.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap_faq.html

I've posted that response several times... because to some people, it's new -- they've not read the FAQ so aren't aware of the reasons APOD reruns images.

And in a bit, perhaps I'll rerun an editor's comments about the range of images shown on APOD, because clearly, some people haven't seen that yet, either.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by neufer » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:37 am

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Boomer12k wrote:
Not mentioned is the column of smoke or something to the left of the rainbow. It looks like the spirit of a person facing to our left. The are leg, left arm, chest, shoulder, and neck and head, and the head has a helmet, all in profile. I am calling him, "The Guardian of the Rainbow", who protects believers from tornadoes!!!! :D

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by neufer » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:29 am

bto wrote:
If you see a tornado, in your car--drive away from it at right angles,
That only makes sense if:
  • 1) the tornado is coming directly towards you
    2) and there is a road at right angles.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by neufer » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:19 am

islader2 wrote:
How is Eric Nguyen able to copyright==in 2004==a photograph taken a year {or so} later? What a perversion of Queen Anne's law!!!
The June 13, 2005 APOD explanation:

"Last June in Kansas, storm chaser Eric Nguyen photographed this budding twister"

was repeat verbatim in July 2, 2006.

It was just logical to split the difference between 2004 & 2006.

By being vague about the date it was possible (quantum mechanically) to pin down the energy of the tornado.

Re: APOD: Tornado and Rainbow Over Kansas (2011 Aug 14)

by bto » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:11 am

This is completely lame.
Nothing to do with astronomy
seems to be the third time its used
so much NEW stuff, yet we see the same tired pics

BTW...If you see a tornado, in your car--drive away from it at right angles,

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