by BMAONE23 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:05 am
jazz41au wrote:Guest wrote:So, when I apply my Photoshop program to a whole bunch of samples for a panorama, I typically get a cleaner looking picture. How come this one is so tatty?
Ed
Edward Sutorik
However much I would like to believe it's on Mars, I have my doubts. The rocks on the far left cast a shadow to the left and the rocks on the far right the shadows are on the right. Other shadows don't tally either. One would think cables were incapsulated much better. Pretty sloppy. Then there is all the sand on a box, but no sand elsewhere. And a square hole has neatly been dug on the far right in the picture. Not convinced it's on Mars.
This is a similar arguement as that which was used against the validity of the Lunar photos.
This is a Mosaic Panorama image that was stitched together from hundreds of individual images. The Shadowing on the far left side of the image indicates the sun is on the left casting shadows toward the right of the rocks. The shadowing on the far right of the image also indicates the sun is on the left and casting shadows toward the right of the rocks. Above the sample trench, adjacent to the left solar panel, lies a small patch of gravel/rocks which indicates the sun is also on the left, but directly above this area there is a part of the mosaic that doesn't indicate any shadowing at all. This portion was taken at a different time of day when the sun was more directly overhead. The central portion of the panorama, between the two solar panels, is illuminated from the opposite side and was taken either much earlier or later in the day than either side.
The cable work is pretty typical of most martian probes considering they need to be cost effective and travel 60,000,000 miles plus the rigors of reentry and landing.
The "sand on a box" is the byproduct of the effort to get samples (sand) into the chemistry lab and ovens (box). They had problems with the soil being "Sticky" and needing to shake (vibrate) the trenching scoop which caused the soil to get all over the top ov the oven (box). The Square hole on the right is where the scoop had trenched the surface soil away and then tried to scrape some of the subsurface soil for samples. As neat and square as it appears, it is actually longer than it is wide and is made from 3 separate trenching maneuvers.
This image will give you a feel for the size of the scoop vs the size of the trench
http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.p ... 01&clD=161
Here is just how dirty things get trying to deliver soil into the lab/oven space
And here is one of the trench on the right side that appears square
http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.p ... 128&cID=71
[quote="jazz41au"][quote="Guest"]So, when I apply my Photoshop program to a whole bunch of samples for a panorama, I typically get a cleaner looking picture. How come this one is so tatty?
Ed
Edward Sutorik[/quote]
However much I would like to believe it's on Mars, I have my doubts. The rocks on the far left cast a shadow to the left and the rocks on the far right the shadows are on the right. Other shadows don't tally either. One would think cables were incapsulated much better. Pretty sloppy. Then there is all the sand on a box, but no sand elsewhere. And a square hole has neatly been dug on the far right in the picture. Not convinced it's on Mars.[/quote]
This is a similar arguement as that which was used against the validity of the Lunar photos.
This is a Mosaic Panorama image that was stitched together from hundreds of individual images. The Shadowing on the far left side of the image indicates the sun is on the left casting shadows toward the right of the rocks. The shadowing on the far right of the image also indicates the sun is on the left and casting shadows toward the right of the rocks. Above the sample trench, adjacent to the left solar panel, lies a small patch of gravel/rocks which indicates the sun is also on the left, but directly above this area there is a part of the mosaic that doesn't indicate any shadowing at all. This portion was taken at a different time of day when the sun was more directly overhead. The central portion of the panorama, between the two solar panels, is illuminated from the opposite side and was taken either much earlier or later in the day than either side.
The cable work is pretty typical of most martian probes considering they need to be cost effective and travel 60,000,000 miles plus the rigors of reentry and landing.
The "sand on a box" is the byproduct of the effort to get samples (sand) into the chemistry lab and ovens (box). They had problems with the soil being "Sticky" and needing to shake (vibrate) the trenching scoop which caused the soil to get all over the top ov the oven (box). The Square hole on the right is where the scoop had trenched the surface soil away and then tried to scrape some of the subsurface soil for samples. As neat and square as it appears, it is actually longer than it is wide and is made from 3 separate trenching maneuvers.
This image will give you a feel for the size of the scoop vs the size of the trench [url]http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?glD=14301&clD=161[/url]
[img2]http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_14301.jpg[/img2]
Here is just how dirty things get trying to deliver soil into the lab/oven space [img2]http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_40716.jpg[/img2]
And here is one of the trench on the right side that appears square [url]http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=5128&cID=71[/url]
[img2]http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_5128.jpg[/img2]