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Re: Cone Crater Conundrum

by neufer » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:35 pm

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133:20:31 Shepard: Okay. We're about the maximum elevation now, Houston. It's leveled out a little bit.
And it looks like we'll be approaching the [Cone Crater] rim here very shortly.
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133:21:15 Mitchell: (Pause) Oops! It (the MET)'s going over. No, got it. (Long Pause) Fantastic stabilization; Al, it's going to turn over. (Pause)

133:21:50 Shepard: Okay. We better reconnoiter here. I don't see the crater yet.

133:21:57 Mitchell: I agree. Rock under my wheels. (Long Pause)
  • "yaaaaaaa-hoo-hoo-hoo-hooey!!"
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http://www.universetoday.com/83166/interior-of-subsurface-cave-imaged-on-the-moon/ wrote: Interior of Subsurface Cave Imaged on the Moon
by Nancy Atkinson on February 8, 2011

<<Follow-up observations of a potential ‘skylight’ in a lava tube on the Moon has revealed a cavernous lunar pit in the Marius Hills region, with a view of the interior and bottom of the pit. The sun angle, camera angle and lighting conditions were just right for the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter camera to look all the way down to the floor of the pit. And this is no small hole in the ground — the LRO team says this pit is about 65 meters in diameter! This latest image confirms this object is actually a subsurface cave; a lava tube close to the surface where part of it has collapsed. These lava tubes could be great locations for lunar bases that could protect human explorers from dangers such as cosmic rays, meteorite impacts, and the extreme temperature differences between the lunar day and night.

This is the fourth time that this particular lunar pit has been imaged. Since LRO is constantly orbiting the Moon and it completes a full cycle of lunar imaging each month, the team can do follow up observations of previous discoveries and re-image targets under different lighting conditions.

Previous images had revealed the dark, cave-like entrance, and another showed part of the pit wall.

For this fourth imaging run, the spacecraft slewed 43° to the east and the solar incidence angle was 34° from vertical. This was just the right angle so that if there actually was an open lava tube extending horizontally its floor would be illuminated.

The LROC team hit paydirt (or pay-regolith, if you will).

With LRO’s Narrow Angle Camera, the team was able to image a few meters under the overhang to show the interior of this sublunarean void. With this oblique angle, they were also able to capture the layered nature of the mare bedrock in the pit walls. These exposed layers give scientists important clues as to how the vast mare were deposited.

The collection of images now verifies this is actually a cavernous subsurface cave. These pits had been predicted to exist, based on the understanding of the geomorphology of mare deposits and lava flow behavior on Earth, but never directly imaged before. The LROC team will be presenting their findings about this pit and others that have been imaged at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference.>>

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by dennyzen » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:51 am

The LRO images of Apollo 14 were cool. They've gotten even more out of the LRO--in 3D:
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/LRO ... -3D-2.jpg/

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by neufer » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:33 pm

owlice wrote:
Neufer! All this time I've been keeping your Owlman secret, and you go and out yourself!!
I don't live in England. It is taxing enough just flying out to West Virginia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman wrote:
Image
<<The Mothman is a cryptid reportedly seen in the Point Pleasant area of West Virginia from November 12, 1966, to December 1967. Most observers describe the Mothman as a large man-sized (2.1 m) creature with large reflective red eyes and large moth wings. The creature was sometimes reported as having no head, with its eyes set into its chest. It possesses an unusual shriek.

On November 15, 1966, two young couples from Point Pleasant were driving late at night were passing the West Virginia Ordnance Works, when they noticed two red lights in the shadows by an old generator plant near the factory gate. They stopped the car, and reportedly discovered that the lights were the glowing red eyes of a large animal, "shaped like a man, but bigger, maybe six and a half or seven feet tall, with big wings folded against its back." Terrified, they drove toward Route 62, where the creature supposedly chased them at speeds exceeding 100 miles per hour. They drove to the Mason County courthouse to alert Deputy Millard Halstead, who later said, "I've known these kids all their lives. They'd never been in any trouble and they were really scared that night. I took them seriously."

The following night, on November 16, several armed townspeople combed the area for signs of Mothman. They were heading back to their car when a figure appeared behind their parked vehicle. Mrs. Bennett said that it seemed like it had been lying down, slowly rising up from the ground, large and gray, with glowing red eyes. While Wamsley phoned the police, the creature walked onto the porch and peered in at them through the window. On November 24, four people allegedly saw the creature flying over the area.

A Mothman sighting was again reported on January 11, 1967, hovering over the town's bridge, and several other times that same year. Fewer sightings of the Mothman were reported after the collapse of the town's bridge, the Silver Bridge, when 46 people died. The Silver Bridge, so named for its aluminium paint, was an eyebar chain suspension bridge that connected the cities of Point Pleasant, West Virginia, and Gallipolis, Ohio, over the Ohio River. The bridge was built in 1928, and it collapsed on December 15, 1967. Investigation of the bridge wreckage pointed to the failure of a single eye-bar in a suspension chain due to a small manufacturing flaw. There are rumors that the Mothman appears before upcoming disasters and seems to try to warn people of them.>>

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by owlice » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:37 pm

Neufer! All this time I've been keeping your Owlman secret, and you go and out yourself!!

The Owlman of Mawnan

by neufer » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:15 pm

owlice wrote:
ksgtarheel wrote:
Zoomed in at the top/center, just above the horizon line, there is a fuzzy red dot (more like 1 and a half of them) ...just wanted to see if that was mars or not...thx in advance
There are two red dots on the horizon. You know what they are, don't you?

Eyes!! :shock:
Deja vue all over again! http://asterisk.apod.com/vie ... 25#p142316
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owlman wrote:
<<The Owlman, sometimes referred to as the Cornish Owlman, or The Owlman of Mawnan, is a purported cryptid that was supposedly sighted around mid 1976 in the village of Mawnan, Cornwall. The Owlman is sometimes compared to America's Mothman in cryptozoological literature.
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The Owlman story began when paranormal researcher Tony "Doc" Shiels was approached by a man, Don Melling, who had been visiting the area on holiday from Lancaster. Melling said that on April 17, 1976, his two daughters, 12-year-old June and her 9-year-old sister, Vicky, were walking through the woods near Mawnan church when they saw a large winged creature hovering above the church tower. The girls were frightened and immediately ran to tell their father. According to Shiels, the family had become so perturbed by the sighting that they had abandoned their holiday three days early and that the father would not allow either of his daughters to be interviewed. Sheils was, however, provided with a drawing of the creature made by twelve year old June. :arrow:

Two months later, on July 3, 14-year-old Sally Chapman was camping with a friend, Barbara Perry, in woods near the church. According to her account, as she stood outside her tent, she heard a hissing sound and turned to see a figure that looked like an owl as big as a man, with pointed ears and red eyes. The girls reported that the creature flew up into the air, revealing black pincer-like claws. Sightings of this figure continued to be reported on the following day (when it was described as "silvery gray") and on two occasions two years later, in June and August 1978, all within the vicinity of the church. Previous to their encounter, the girls had read the pamphlet that described the Owlman's appearance to the Melling girls. They contacted Shiels, who encouraged them to draw images separately; he considered them similar enough to verify their story but different enough to rule out conspiracy.

Researcher Jonathan Downes later interviewed a young man, whom he calls "Gavin", who encountered the Owlman in 1989, independently of Shiels. "Gavin" and his girlfriend claimed to have seen a creature "about five feet tall... The legs had high ankles and the feet were large and black with two huge 'toes' on the visible side. The creature was gray with brown and the eyes definitely glowed." In 1995, a female tourist from Chicago wrote to the Western Morning News in Truro, claiming to have seen a "man-bird... with a ghastly face, a wide mouth, glowing eyes and pointed ears" as well as "clawed wings".>>

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by BruceBWilliams » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:45 pm

Just goes to show you. NASA can take photographs and make about anything they want out them, but not exactly.

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by eaglekepr » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:41 am

arion wrote:What is that object that looks like a turbine, cut in the middle? Someone could say that this is Photoshop!
And they would be partially right. The final image used Photoshop Elements 6.0 (it's all in the metadata!)

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by neufer » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:10 am

NoelC wrote:
Y'know, I'll bet in the electronics they left up there, there are indeed transformers.

Probably none so powerful as ABB the snail though...

http://www04.abb.com/global/seitp/seitp ... former.jpg
Click to play embedded YouTube video.
Click to play embedded YouTube video.

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by NoelC » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:24 am

Y'know, I'll bet in the electronics they left up there, there are indeed transformers.

Probably none so powerful as ABB the snail though...

http://www04.abb.com/global/seitp/seitp ... former.jpg

-Noel

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by neufer » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:29 pm

Click to play embedded YouTube video.
NoelC wrote:
ZenGrouch wrote:
What are the objects near the horizon about 2 cross-hairs from the left? One appears to be covered in a gold colored foil...
That's a fair question.

I assume it is some kind of science station they set up to leave on the moon, and they didn't want it contaminated or disturbed by the lift off when they left. I'd love to know the specifics.

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by NoelC » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:55 pm

ZenGrouch wrote:What are the objects near the horizon about 2 cross-hairs from the left? One appears to be covered in a gold colored foil...
That's a fair question.

I assume it is some kind of science station they set up to leave on the moon, and they didn't want it contaminated or disturbed by the lift off when they left. I'd love to know the specifics.

-Noel

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by neufer » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:41 pm

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owlice wrote:
We're being watched!! (Way on the right margin, there is another pair of eyes, about 1/5 of the way down from the top. They are everywhere!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28mythology%29 wrote:
<<In Greek mythology Europa (Greek Ευρώπη) was a Phoenician woman of high lineage, from whom the name of the continent Europe has ultimately been taken. The story of her abduction by Zeus in the form of a white bull was a Cretan story; as Kerényi points out "most of the love-stories concerning Zeus originated from more ancient tales describing his marriages with goddesses. This can especially be said of the story of Europa". Europa's earliest literary reference is in the Iliad, which is commonly dated to the 8th century BC. Another early reference to her is in a fragment of the Hesiodic Catalogue of Women, discovered at Oxyrhyncus.

The etymology of her Greek name (ευρυ- "wide" or "broad" + οπ– "eye(s)" or "face") suggests that Europa as a goddess represented the lunar cow, at least on some symbolic level. Metaphorically, at a later date her name could be construed as the intelligent or open-minded, analogous to glaukopis (γλαυκώπις) attributed to Athena. However, Ernest Klein suggests a possible Semitic origin in AKKadian eREBu "to go down, set" (in reference to the sun) which would parallel occident.>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talos wrote:
<<In the Cretan tales incorporated into Greek mythology, Talos (Τάλως) or Talon (Τάλων) was a giant man of bronze who protected Europa in Crete from pirates and invaders by circling the island's shores three times daily while guarding it. Talos is said to be created from a petition from Zeus to Hephaestus, to protect Europa from persons who would want to kidnap her. According to Brian Sparkes "The most detailed treatment in literature is to be found in the Argonautica... however, we have detailed images of the episode, 150 years earlier, dated to around 400 BC."

In the Cretan dialect, talôs was the equivalent of the Greek hêlios, the sun: the lexicon of Hesychius of Alexandria notes simply "Talos is the sun". In Crete Zeus was worshipped as Zeus Tallaios, "Solar Zeus", absorbing the earlier god as an epithet in the familiar sequence. The god was identified with the Tallaia, a spur of the Ida range in Crete. On the coin from Phaistos he is winged; in Greek vase-paintings and Etruscan bronze mirrors he is not. The ideas of Talos vary widely, with one consistent detail: in Greek imagery outside Crete, Talos is always being vanquished: he seems to have been an enigmatic figure to the Greeks themselves.

Talos is described by Greeks as either a gift from Hephaestus to Minos, forged with the aid of the Cyclopes in the form of a bull or a gift from Zeus to Europa. Or he may have been the son of Kres, the personification of Crete; In Argonautica Talos threw rocks at any approaching ship to protect his island. In the Byzantine encyclopia The Suda, Talos is said, when the Sardinians did not wish to release him to Minos, to have heated himself red-hot by jumping into a fire and to have clasped them in his embrace. Students of Erich von Daniken and other "ancient astronaut theorists" speculate that Talos may in fact have been a kind of extra-terrestrial weapon or flying machine.

Talos had one vein, which went from his neck to his ankle, bound shut by only one bronze nail. The Argo, transporting Jason and the Argonauts, approached Crete after obtaining the Golden Fleece. As guardian of the island, Talos kept the Argo at bay by hurling great boulders at it. According to the pseudo-Apollodorus' Bibliotheke, Talos was slain either when Medea the sorceress drove him mad with drugs, or deceived him into believing that she would make him immortal by removing the nail. In Argonautica, Medea hypnotized him from the Argo, driving him mad with the keres she raised, so that he dislodged the nail, and "the ichor ran out of him like molten lead", exsanguinating and killing him. Peter Green, translator of Argonautica, notes that the story is somewhat reminiscent of the story regarding the heel of Achilles.

In Argonautica, Apollonius notes that the ichor ran out like melted lead. A.B. Cook first suggested that the single vein closed by a nail or plug referred to the lost-wax method of casting; Robert Graves (whose interpretation of Greek mythology is controversial among many scholars) suggests that this myth is based on a misinterpretation of an image of Athena demonstrating the process of lost-wax casting of steel, which Daedalus would have brought to Sardinia.>>

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by owlice » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:16 pm

neufer wrote:
owlice wrote:
ksgtarheel wrote:
Zoomed in at the top/center, just above the horizon line, there is a fuzzy red dot (more like 1 and a half of them) ...just wanted to see if that was mars or not...thx in advance
There are two red dots on the horizon. You know what they are, don't you?

Eyes!! :shock:
Deja vue all over again! http://asterisk.apod.com/vie ... 25#p142316
I know! We're being watched!!

(Way on the right margin, there is another pair of eyes, about 1/5 of the way down from the top. They are everywhere!)

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by neufer » Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:06 pm

owlice wrote:
ksgtarheel wrote:
Zoomed in at the top/center, just above the horizon line, there is a fuzzy red dot (more like 1 and a half of them) ...just wanted to see if that was mars or not...thx in advance
There are two red dots on the horizon. You know what they are, don't you?

Eyes!! :shock:
Deja vue all over again! http://asterisk.apod.com/vie ... 25#p142316
ZenGrouch wrote:
What are the objects near the horizon about 2 cross-hairs from the left? One appears to be covered in a gold colored foil...
NoelC wrote:
Did you read the part of the caption that said this was a mosaic, assembled from multiple photos taken out the window of the LM? Why do you think the edges of the image are so choppy? There are clear signs of stitching multiple photos together (which is by no means trivial) along with a few mistakes.

I'm ecstatic that Eric Jones did that stitching. It gives us the opportunity to look around freely at very high resolution, something that brings the experience of the astronauts to us like few other kinds of media could. Think about it... Who had 30 megapixel images in 1971??? They used a very high quality film camera back then and new millenium technology to put the images together now.

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by owlice » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:55 pm

ksgtarheel wrote:Zoomed in at the top/center, just above the horizon line, there is a fuzzy red dot (more like 1 and a half of them) ...just wanted to see if that was mars or not...thx in advance
There are two red dots on the horizon. You know what they are, don't you?

Eyes!! :shock:

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by ZenGrouch » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:47 pm

What are the objects near the horizon about 2 cross-hairs from the left? One appears to be covered in a gold colored foil...

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by ksgtarheel » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:57 pm

Zoomed in at the top/center, just above the horizon line, there is a fuzzy red dot (more like 1 and a half of them) ...just wanted to see if that was mars or not...thx in advance

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by owlice » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:06 pm

neufer, that was very interesting! Thanks!


ETA: Dragging this over from another thread for the subheading on the lead article:

Cone Crater Conundrum

by neufer » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:53 pm

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0013045/quotes wrote:
Captain Zapp Brannigan: [musing to himself after capturing Fry, Leela and Bender]
Rock breaks scissors. But paper covers rock, and scissors cut paper!
Kiff, we have a conundrum.


[list][Kiff groans][/list]
Captain Zapp Brannigan: Search them for paper... and bring me a rock.
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/a14.clsout2.html wrote: 133:20:31 Shepard: Okay. We're about the maximum elevation now, Houston. It's leveled out a little bit. And it looks like we'll be approaching the [Cone Crater] rim here very shortly.
.............................................................
133:21:15 Mitchell: (Pause) Oops! It (the MET)'s going over. No, got it. (Long Pause) Fantastic stabilization; Al, it's going to turn over. (Pause)

133:21:50 Shepard: Okay. We better reconnoiter here. I don't see the crater yet.

133:21:57 Mitchell: I agree. Rock under my wheels. (Long Pause)

133:22:28 Shepard: See this boulder pattern and all that we're in here right now? This boulder field and all?

[Al is asking if the boulder field they are in is on the map. A significant problem is that Al thinks they are farther north than they really are and still west of the Cone rim. He may be looking at the boulder field outside the southwest rim in the area immediately north of boulder 1033.]

133:22:33 Mitchell: I thought it (meaning the boulder field) was on the south rim.

[Ed has a reasonable idea where they are and, in the area south of Cone, several of the largest boulders.]

133:22:37 Haise: And, Al and Ed, do you have the rim in sight at this time?

133:22:45 Mitchell: Oh, yeah.

133:22:46 Shepard: It's affirmative. It's down in the valley.

[They heard 'LM' instead of 'rim'.]

133:22:51 Haise: I'm sorry. You misunderstood the question. I meant the rim of Cone Crater.

133:22:58 Shepard: Oh, the rim. That is negative. We haven't found that yet. (Pause)

133:23:10 Mitchell: This big boulder right here (on the traverse map), Al, which stands out bigger than anything else (undoubtedly Saddle Rock) ought...We ought to be able to see it.

[Because he has no references to help him judge size and distance, Ed does not recognize that the large boulder on the map is in sight. Al will first call attention to the "white boulder" at 133:25:40. Later, they will go over to Saddle Rock and collect samples.]

133:23:17 Shepard: Well, I don't know what the rim is still way up here from the looks of things.

133:23:23 Haise: And, Ed and Al, we've already eaten in our 30-minute extension and we're past that now. I think we'd better proceed with the sampling and continue with the EVA.

133:23:37 Mitchell: Okay, Fredo.

133:23:40 Shepard: Okay. We'll start with a pan from here. I'll take that.

133:23:47 Mitchell: All right, I'll start sampling. (Long Pause)

[Mitchell - "Right now, as I listen to this, I feel an enormous sense of frustration, just like I did then. It was terribly, terribly frustrating; coming up over that ridge that we were going up, and thinking, finally, that was it; and it wasn't - suddenly recognizing that, really, you just don't know where the hell you are. You know you're close. You can't be very far away. You know you got to quit and go back. It was probably one of the most frustrating periods I've ever experienced. There's no feeling of being lost. I mean, the LM is there; we can get back to the LM. It's not reaching and looking down into that bloody crater. It's terribly frustrating."]

[Jones - "Still, twenty years later."]

[Mitchell - "Still, twenty years later. Well, I'm tapping back into those same feelings. The only thing that really makes it palatable is that six weeks later, after the flight, when we realized that we really were there and, from point C1, another ten or twenty feet it would have been obvious. That really is distressing."]

[Shepard, from the 1971 Technical Debrief - "If we'd gotten to the point where we'd been willing to do away with the rest of the traverse (that is, do their work at the Cone rim and then proceed directly back to the LM without stopping), we could have made the rim all right. But I personally wasn't willing to do that. I felt that gathering more samples was the better of the two choices. We looked at the map again today and described two boulder fields that indicate that we were probably within 150 to 300 feet - depending on these two boulder fields - of the rim and still were not able to see it. That was a pretty good-sized lunar feature, to be that close to the top of the thing and not see it. That is just part of the navigation problem.]

[Mitchell, from the 1971 Technical Debrief - "At this point, in spite of personal frustration - and I know Al felt frustrated in the same way - to have us stop at that point and turn around and come back was the proper decision."]

133:24:26 Shepard: Okay, Houston. We are in the middle of a fairly large boulder field. It covers perhaps as much as a square mile. And, as the pan will show, I don't believe we have quite reached the rim yet. However, we can't be too far away and I think certainly we'll find that these samples (come from) pretty far down in Cone Crater.

[By collecting samples from the large rocks near the rim, they are certain of giving the geologists back home a look at material dug out by the impact from the deepest part of the crater. One use of the samples is to estimate the age of Cone Crater. Rock that had been buried deep within Cone Ridge were not exposed to cosmic rays until dug out by the impact and it is possible to use geochemistry techniques to estimate how long the rocks have been exposed. In 1975, C.J. Morgan was able to determine that Cone is about 26 million years old. In turn, good ages for a number of lunar craters permit improved estimates of the ages of other craters for which the only available indication of age is the number of smaller craters per unit area on the ejecta blanket.]>>

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by orin stepanek » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:54 pm

I say hat's off to all the astronauts of the early lunar missions that rode in those first spacecraft to the moon. 8-) Even now 40 years later; space flight is hazardous!

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by Sherlock Holmes » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:53 pm

alphachapmtl wrote:
Sherlock Holmes wrote:What about the tyre tracks ???

The lunar jeep seems positionned ready to go
Where does it come from ???
Did they drive it reverse gear all the way ???
It's not a jeep, it's a two-wheeled hand-pulled cart, a bit like those used for grocery shopping here.

I do not see the foot prints match with the tyre tracks of the hand pulled cart and someone pulling the cart ...

Good luck

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by NoelC » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:41 pm

arion wrote:Someone could say that this is Photoshop!
And someone would be right. Did you read the part of the caption that said this was a mosaic, assembled from multiple photos taken out the window of the LM? Why do you think the edges of the image are so choppy? There are clear signs of stitching multiple photos together (which is by no means trivial) along with a few mistakes.

I'm ecstatic that Eric Jones did that stitching. It gives us the opportunity to look around freely at very high resolution, something that brings the experience of the astronauts to us like few other kinds of media could. Think about it... Who had 30 megapixel images in 1971??? They used a very high quality film camera back then and new millenium technology to put the images together now.

What an astounding view! I'm impressed at how easily the dust from later activity appears to have covered up the astronauts earlier tracks (e.g., some of the cart tracks). Think about it - it must have been horrendous to deal with that dust in an environment where an airtight seal meant life or death!!!!

-Noel

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by alphachapmtl » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:32 pm

Sherlock Holmes wrote:What about the tyre tracks ???

The lunar jeep seems positionned ready to go
Where does it come from ???
Did they drive it reverse gear all the way ???
It's not a jeep, it's a two-wheeled hand-pulled cart, a bit like those used for grocery shopping here.

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by alphachapmtl » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:29 pm

Giordano Bruno wrote:Where are the stars ????
When I take a picture here on earth with my camera, I never ever see any star. I would need a special setup to see any, like special camera or long exposure.

Re: APOD: Apollo 14: A View from Antares (2011 Feb 05)

by alphachapmtl » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:26 pm

BruceBWilliams wrote:What is the disjointed object in the upper right in the area by the thruster?
One of the stitched images could see behind the thruster.

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