APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09)

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Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by starman » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:49 am

This looks strangely like one half of a T Tau bipolar outflow - excess material from a forming star is being blasted out at its poles and then causing shocks/illuminating interstellar material in the immediate area. There will be another outflow from the opposite pole but if the star is tilted towards us then it may well obscure this other outflow, as could obscurations of other kinds. Google for images of other similar stars such as R Mon, RY Tau, PV Cep etc. The last of these is also a "runaway star", causing havoc in its parent nebula! (Causing creation actually)
I have just done some research and there appears to be no pre-main-sequence variable star at the position of the IRAS source. Problem is, the IR detectors do not give point positions but instead a small elliptical area so you have to widen the search coordinates. Even so, no T Tau star catalogued as such. Intriguing!

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by billlovesstars » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:15 pm

I have looked at the enigmatic star picture several times and can not help but thinking that it appears to look like a hooded figure praying. The V appears to be the top of the hood. below the V appears to be a faint image of a right eye and the star appears to be the left eye. Below that a gas cloud looks alot like to hands coming together in prayer. All the rest of the gas clouds appear to make up the shroud of the figure............Why Not! ...don't we call "out there"" the Heavens"?

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by neufer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:02 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2 wrote: <<K2 is the second-highest mountain on Earth after Mount Everest. With a peak elevation of 8,611 metres, K2 is part of the Karakoram Range, and is located on the border between the Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County of Xinjiang, China, and Gilgit, in Gilgit-Baltistan of Pakistan. K2 is known as the Savage Mountain due to the difficulty of ascent and the 2nd highest fatality rate among the 'eight thousanders' for those who climb it. For every four people who have reached the summit, one has died trying. Unlike Annapurna, the mountain with the highest fatality rate, K2 has never been climbed in winter.
The name K2 is derived from the notation used by the Great Trigonometric Survey. Thomas Montgomerie made the first survey of the Karakoram from Mount Haramukh, some 210 km to the south, and sketched the two most prominent peaks, labelling them K1 and K2. The policy of the Great Trigonometric Survey was to use local names for mountains wherever possible and K1 was found to be known locally as Masherbrum. K2, however, appeared not to have acquired a local name, possibly due to its remoteness. The mountain is not visible from Askole, the last village to the south, or from the nearest habitation to the north, and is only fleetingly glimpsed from the end of the Baltoro Glacier, beyond which few local people would have ventured. The name Chogori, derived from two Balti words, chhogo ('big') and ri ('mountain') (شاہگوری) has been suggested as a local name, but evidence for its widespread use is scant. It may have been a compound name invented by Western explorers or simply a bemused reply to the question "What's that called?" It does, however, form the basis for the name Qogir by which Chinese authorities officially refer to the peak. Lacking a local name, the name Mount Godwin-Austen was suggested, in honour of Henry Godwin-Austen, an early explorer of the area, and while the name was rejected by the Royal Geographical Society.

The surveyor's mark, K2, therefore continues to be the name by which the mountain is commonly known. It is now also used in the Balti language, rendered as Kechu or Ketu. The Italian climber Fosco Maraini argued in his account of the ascent of Gasherbrum IV that while the name of K2 owes its origin to chance, its clipped, impersonal nature is highly appropriate for so remote and challenging a mountain. He concluded that it was...

"...just the bare bones of a name, all rock and ice and storm and abyss. It makes no attempt to sound human. It is atoms and stars. It has the nakedness of the world before the first man - or of the cindered planet after the last.">>

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by neufer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:08 am

http://www.kayakbc.ca/brag/2009/09/03/giant-barnacle/ wrote:
<<Found these giant barnacles on the beach yesterday . You can see part of the shrimp-like animal that lives inside; they stick out there feet , called cirri, to try and catch plankton and other tiny organisms and eat them. They are quite strange to observe, almost alien-like.>>

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by BMAONE23 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:41 pm

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by zimionus » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:50 pm

It would be interesting to see a picture at a wider angle of the cloud region.

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by neufer » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:39 pm

RJN wrote:OK, the new APOD is up. I apologize to all of the mirror operators and to Otto Posterman, the Asterisk APOD robot updater. - RJN
OTTO: It could only have been attributable to human error. The Posterman series is the most reliable Asterisk computer ever made. No Posterman computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error.

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by Madame » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:55 pm

Please tell me they plan to nickname this "Mount Olympus". lol That is exactly what it looks like!

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by DavidLeodis » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:55 am

It's a spooky yet also ethereal image. I like it a lot. :)

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by RJN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:26 am

OK, the new APOD is up. I apologize to all of the mirror operators and to Otto Posterman, the Asterisk APOD robot updater. - RJN

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by RJN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:58 am

My bad. Yesterday,I forgot to set up the next day's APOD in the future APOD queue. I will do it now. It will take a few minutes. Sorry. - RJN

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by Ann » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:14 am

This IRAS 05437+2502 star cloud was yesterday's news. There is no new APOD for today. Why not? Has Otto gone on strike?

Image

Ann

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by Noah » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:30 am

ozalba wrote:It strikes me that we are not looking at a backlit cone-shaped 'floating mountain', but a backlit v-shaped 'arch'. There does appear to be a star at the apex of the arch, which would seem to be a candidate for the source of the light, but it could also be another star hidden from view, higher up. Further, the lower sections of the inverted V could be generated by a shadow effect, rather than being the physical edge of a cloud (think crepuscular rays).

It is apparent that there is a lighting effect generating the "larger V"that comprises the enitire image. But, what "shadow effect"creates such a conical section? (I assume it is a conical section which creates the "larger V") I understand that light diffuses conically when forced through a "pinhole". But what , in empty space, would create such a "pinhole"?

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by Dallythewop » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:44 am

sooo beautiful. APOD def. helps one forget their problems, at least for a while.

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by BMAONE23 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:51 am

aviatorone wrote:They should rename this to, "Gods Hand'.
Actually, I think this APOD would more aptly carry that title

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by aviatorone » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:34 am

They should rename this to, "Gods Hand'.

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by moonstruck » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:14 pm

God bless the Hubble Space Telescope---- and the guys who made it especially. :|

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by mexhunter » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:27 pm

Hello to all:
It is a magical area.
Regards
Cesar

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by biddie67 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:24 pm

This is a spectacular photo - it could be used as a Christmas card .....

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by wbk79 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:06 pm

The minute I saw this I thought of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry... it looks like the castle.

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by neufer » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:48 pm

Ann wrote:ElVis has left the nebula, leaving his V behind!

Elis has left the nebula!
Image
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elis wrote:
<<Elis (Ancient Greek: Ἦλις) is an ancient district in southern Greece on the Peloponnesos peninsula. The first Olympic festival was organized in Elean land, Olympia, Greece by the authorities of Elis in 776 BCE. The local form of the name was Valis, or Valeia, and its meaning, in all probability, “the lowland” (compare with the word "Valley"). According to Strabo, the first settlement was created by Oxylus the Aetolian. The city, built in 471 BC, had the authority of the Olympic games and believed to be a holy city, so was unwalled. The Eleans built a temple dedicated to Hades in one of the precincts of Elis. Once a year, the doors to the Temple of Hades would open, however, no one would enter bar the priests.>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preseli_Hills wrote:
<<The Presely Hills or Presely Mountains (Welsh: Mynydd Y Preseli / Y Preselau) are a range of hills in north Pembrokeshire, West Wales. The hills rise to 536 metres above sea level at Foel Cwmcerwyn and are dotted with prehistoric remains including evidence of Neolithic settlement. In 1923, the petrologist Herbert Henry Thomas identified that Bluestone from the hills corresponded to that used to build the inner circle of Stonehenge.>>

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by León » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:10 pm

Although difficult to secure, it appears that the peak will become a protostar section where it appears bright, in fact, all the upper sections of the dust are slightly active.
Image

It's classic aphorism "stardust" is proven that it will be born a new "star of dust"
Image

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by Ann » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:58 pm

ElVis has left the nebula, leaving his V behind!

Elis has left the nebula!

Ann

Re: APOD: IRAS 05437 2502: An Enigmatic Star... (2010 Aug 09

by Henning Makholm » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:27 pm

bluebird wrote:Might want to consider a "Fusion Nebula" - a section of a nebula where the density/temp have achieved the levels to achieve a sustaining fusion reaction.
That's called "star formation".

It is impossible to meet the required conditions simultaneously in an area large enough to quailfy as a nebula in itself. So much matter would be needed that the entire region would acquire an event horizon and collapse into a black hole.

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