by Chris Peterson » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:12 pm
lakeside wrote:I once asked astronomers on Science Friday, the NPR science radio program, if the solar system were to drift into a dust cloud, would the density be great enough to cause cooling of the earth. This seems to me to offer another variable in global heating/cooling. The astronomers were quite negative on this point, stating that there seems to be nothing much in the way of our observing galaxies very far away etc. Yet as photos of distant galaxies show clearly, galaxies contain a lot of dust and since we live in one of those galaxies my point still seems valid. This is confirmed by todays wonderful wide angle picture of dust clouds near the center of our own galaxy. Who would not believe that such dust clouds could interrupt enough of the suns light and heat to change the climate here. My question is, are such dust clouds dense enough to affect our climate should we drift through one, and how likely is this to happen during the expected life of the sun?
When you look at these dust clouds in the Milky Way, or dust lanes in other galaxies, you are seeing structures on a scale of kiloparsecs. Typical visible-band extinction values in these dust clouds are on the order of a few magnitudes/kpc. In terms of astronomical units, you are looking at nanomagnitudes. In other words, if our solar system were in the midst of a galactic dust lane, we'd see a drop in solar radiation on the order of microwatts per square meter (on the normal value of around 1 kw/m^2). I don't think our current technology is good enough to even detect such a small change. The reduction in energy we'd receive from the Sun if we were in a dust cloud is smaller than the reduction caused by a single small sunspot. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the dust density within the Solar System right now is much greater than the dust density in galactic clouds.
Furthermore, while we were in a dust cloud, it seems likely that it would locally be made even more tenuous by the effects of solar wind and solar radiation, both of which would probably create a bubble of lower density around the Sun.
We undoubtedly pass through dust in the course of orbiting within the Milky Way, probably with a period of a few tens of million years.
[quote="lakeside"]I once asked astronomers on Science Friday, the NPR science radio program, if the solar system were to drift into a dust cloud, would the density be great enough to cause cooling of the earth. This seems to me to offer another variable in global heating/cooling. The astronomers were quite negative on this point, stating that there seems to be nothing much in the way of our observing galaxies very far away etc. Yet as photos of distant galaxies show clearly, galaxies contain a lot of dust and since we live in one of those galaxies my point still seems valid. This is confirmed by todays wonderful wide angle picture of dust clouds near the center of our own galaxy. Who would not believe that such dust clouds could interrupt enough of the suns light and heat to change the climate here. My question is, are such dust clouds dense enough to affect our climate should we drift through one, and how likely is this to happen during the expected life of the sun?[/quote]
When you look at these dust clouds in the Milky Way, or dust lanes in other galaxies, you are seeing structures on a scale of kiloparsecs. Typical visible-band extinction values in these dust clouds are on the order of a few magnitudes/kpc. In terms of astronomical units, you are looking at nanomagnitudes. In other words, if our solar system were in the midst of a galactic dust lane, we'd see a drop in solar radiation on the order of microwatts per square meter (on the normal value of around 1 kw/m^2). I don't think our current technology is good enough to even detect such a small change. The reduction in energy we'd receive from the Sun if we were in a dust cloud is smaller than the reduction caused by a single small sunspot. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the dust density within the Solar System right now is much greater than the dust density in galactic clouds.
Furthermore, while we were in a dust cloud, it seems likely that it would locally be made even more tenuous by the effects of solar wind and solar radiation, both of which would probably create a bubble of lower density around the Sun.
We undoubtedly pass through dust in the course of orbiting within the Milky Way, probably with a period of a few tens of million years.