NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (2009 July 27)

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Re: NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (2009 July 27

by emc » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:33 pm

This is such a cool APOD!

It looks like the bar is rotating faster than the spiral arms based on the “strings” of stars that are forming a sort of web from the arm to the bar. Interesting how the web strings follow an almost straight line. Is this the result of two galaxies merging?

Perhaps this is more of that fantastic alien cosmic industrial engineering designed to creep us humans out. "Eyes watching us from afar!" As if to warn us to conduct ourselves in a manner appeasing to their obvious technical superiority... Why don't they just get it over with?

Re: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (APOD 2009 July 27)

by neufer » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:39 pm

DavidLeodis wrote:It is a superb image. I get a feeling that we are being watched from afar!
Though probably not :o I'm not sure if I should be :D or :shock:.
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Re: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (APOD 2009 July 27)

by DavidLeodis » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:54 am

It is a superb image. I get a feeling that we are being watched from afar! Though probably not :o I'm not sure if I should be :D or :shock:.

Re: NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (APOD 2009 Ju

by neufer » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:31 pm

Indigo_Sunrise wrote:According to this article,
"The companion galaxy that looks as if it's playing peek-a-boo through the larger galaxy could have plunged through, poking a hole," Helou said. "But we don't know this for sure. It could also just happen to be aligned with a gap in the arms."
The description for today's APOD states, in part, "... the gravity of the companion galaxy appears to be reshaping the larger galaxy as it is slowly being destroyed itself."

My question is: can it be determined if the 'companion galaxy' actually does have a gravitational effect on NGC 1097? Or whether the companion it is just fortuitously aligned, leading to this spectacular view. (*I suspect it may have something to do with red shifts of wavelengths(?), but I do not know enough about that.....)
A 2006 APOD addresses this issue:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap061201.html wrote:
Explanation: A smaller companion seems wrapped in the spiral arms of enigmatic galaxy NGC 1097. The faint details revealed include hints of a mysterious jet emerging toward the top of the view. Seen to be about 42,000 light-years from the larger galaxy's center, the companion galaxy is gravitationally interacting with the spiral and will ultimately merge with it. NGC 1097's center also harbors a massive black hole. NGC 1097 is located about 45 million light-years away in the chemical constellation Fornax.
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Re: NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (APOD 2009 Ju

by Indigo_Sunrise » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:13 am

According to this article,
"The companion galaxy that looks as if it's playing peek-a-boo through the larger galaxy could have plunged through, poking a hole," Helou said. "But we don't know this for sure. It could also just happen to be aligned with a gap in the arms."
The description for today's APOD states, in part, "... the gravity of the companion galaxy appears to be reshaping the larger galaxy as it is slowly being destroyed itself."
My question is: can it be determined if the 'companion galaxy' actually does have a gravitational effect on NGC 1097? Or whether the companion it is just fortuitously aligned, leading to this spectacular view.

(*I suspect it may have something to do with red shifts of wavelengths(?), but I do not know enough about that.....)

TIA for any informative responses. :mrgreen:

Re: NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (APOD 2009 Ju

by neufer » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:46 am

smita wrote:Would the spiral shape of the galaxy automatically imply that a black hole in the center is pulling the mass slowly towards it? Like an eye of a hurricane.
That would be highly unlikely, smita.

Any "whirlpool sucking center" would quickly remove matter at a much faster rate than it could be adequately replenished from the outside and there would be a noticeable material hole at the center just as there is a noticeable material hole at the center of a bathtub drain whirlpool and a low pressure at the center of a hurricane.

http://asterisk.apod.com/vie ... 97#p108617

Re: NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (APOD 2009 Ju

by smita » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:23 am

Would the spiral shape of the galaxy automatically imply that a black hole in the center is pulling the mass slowly towards it? Like an eye of a hurricane.

Thanks,
Smita

NGC 1097: Spiral Galaxy with a Central Eye (2009 July 27)

by neufer » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:11 am

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090727.html wrote:
Explanation: What's happening at the center of spiral galaxy NGC 1097? No one is sure, but it likely involves a supermassive black hole. Matter falling in from a bar of stars and gas across the center is likely being heated by an extremely energetic region surrounding the central black hole. From afar, the entire central region appears in the above false-color infrared image as a mysterious eye. Near the left edge and seen in blue, a smaller companion galaxy is wrapped in the spectacular spiral arms of the large spiral, lit in pink by glowing dust. Currently about 40 thousand light-years from the larger galaxy's center, the gravity of the companion galaxy appears to be reshaping the larger galaxy as it is slowly being destroyed itself. NGC 1097 is located about 50 million light years away toward the constellation of the furnace (Fornax).>>
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Furnace, n. [OE. fornais, forneis, OF. fornaise, F. fournaise, from L. fornax; akin to furnus oven, and prob. to E. forceps.]

1. An inclosed place in which heat is produced by the combustion of fuel, as for reducing ores or melting metals, for warming a house, for baking pottery, etc.; as, an iron furnace; a hot-air furnace; a glass furnace; a boiler furnace.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornax wrote:
<<Fornax was identified by Nicolas Louis de Lacaille in 1756. He originally called it Fornax Chemica ("chemical furnace"), representing a small solid fuel heater used for heating chemical experiments.

Fornax has been the target of investigations into the furthest reaches of the universe.
The Hubble Ultra Deep Field is located within Fornax,
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070910.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040309.html


and the Fornax Cluster, a small cluster of galaxies, lies primarily within Fornax.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040924.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030413.html


At a meeting of the Royal Astronomical Society in Britain, a team from University of Queensland described 40 unknown "dwarf" galaxies in this constellation; follow-up observations with the Hubble Space Telescope and the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope revealed that Ultra Compact Dwarfs are much smaller than previously known dwarf galaxies, about 120 light-years across.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040929.html

NGC 1316 is a notably bright elliptical galaxy within the Fornax Cluster.
The galaxy is also one of the brightest radio sources in the sky.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080902.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050628.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050404.html
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