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apodman wrote:There's that teapot again.

aristarchusinexile wrote:What have you got on cut the crap?

(not that your stuff is crap, just trying to be funny, that's all. But you know how easy peoples' feelings are hurt on this forum .. can't even sing 'Beautiful, beautiful brown eyes" because the Blue eyes get jealous.

aristarchusinexile wrote:Neufer, I appreciate the information, but can you cut to the quick?

Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins wrote:
"Cut to the quick" : "To hurt one's feelings."

<<"Historically, both the noun 'quick' and the adjective and adverb forms come from the same root, the Anglo-Saxon 'cwicu, meaning 'alive or living.'...The phrase 'You have cut me to the quick' is a holdover from the original meaning of the word. Literally, it means to cut through the skin to the living tissue; figuratively, 'You have hurt my feelings.">>

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/107300.html wrote:
"Cut to the chase" : "Get to the point - leaving out unnecessary preamble."

This phrase originated in the US film industry. Many early silent films ended in chase sequences preceded by obligatory romantic storylines. The first reference to it dates back to that era, just after the first 'talkie' - The Jazz Singer, 1927. It is a script direction from Joseph Patrick McEvoy's novel Hollywood Girl, 1929:

• "Jannings escapes... Cut to chase."

There's quite a distance from a single citation in a script direction to a phrase that is part of the language. It doesn't appear again in print for some years and we can be fairly sure that McEvoy wasn't the source of the figurative use of the phrase as we now know it. That figurative use, i.e. the generalized 'get to the point' meaning emerged in the 1940s. The Winnipeg Free Press, March 1944 ran an article about screen writing that included this:

• Miss [Helen] Deutsch has another motto, which had to do with the writing of cinematic drama. It also is on the wall where she cant miss seeing it, and it says: "When in doubt, cut to the chase."

That does imply getting to the point but isn't quite the current meaning as it relates specifically to film chases. The more general usage comes soon afterwards, for example, in this piece from the New England newspaper The Berkshire Evening Eagle, February 1947:

• "Let's cut to the chase. There will be no tax relief this year."

The precept as it applies to films is as prevalent now as it was in the silent film days. Many, in fact it is not too strong to say most, films aimed at a young male audience involve plot devices that allow for car/boat/spacecraft chases. There is usually a token love interest storyline before everything in sight ends up in pieces.

There is a similar phrase 'cut to Hecuba', which is reported by Michael Warwick in 'Theatrical Jargon of the Old Days', a piece in an October 1968 edition of Stage. Warwick explains the phrase as a "relic from Shakespeare and was an artifice employed by many old producers to shorten matinees by cutting out long speeches". The allusion is to a speech in which Hamlet refers to Hecuba, which appears late on in Act 2 of Shakespeare's play. The need for such a phrase is evident, as Shakespeare apparently produced several versions of Hamlet, some of which would have taken more than five hours to perform and which were seemingly intended for private reading rather than performance. A need to 'cut to Hecuba', in order to get to the end in a timely fashion seems reasonable. Warwick doesn't include any evidence to prove the existence of the phrase prior to 1968 though and it is hardly a part of everyday language - I can find no citation of it in print other than in Warwick's article. There's also nothing to link 'cut to Hecuba' with 'cut to the chase'. It is quite possible, indeed likely, that the two phrases were coined independently.>>

• _The War of the Worlds_ H.G. Wells (1898)
  Chapter Six The Work of Fifteen Days
  
  I had not realised what had been happening to the world, had not anticipated this startling vision of unfamiliar things. I had expected to see Sheen in ruins—I found about me the landscape, weird and lurid, of another planet.

http://tomsastroblog.com/?p=3320 wrote:
<<Comet Thatcher also known as C/1861 G1 was discovered on April 4, 1861 by A. E. Thatcher. A couple of interesting bits, April 5, 1861 was but a week before the Civil War; the other was Thatcher was a professor, nothing unusual there, but he discovered the comet from New York City. I’ll go out on a limb and say it may well never be done again in the future given the light pollution. Sir John Herschel wrote a letter to Thatcher and it wound up published some years later in the New York Times, click here to read it (pdf format).

Comet Thatcher is a traveler, in fact the next time it will be seen by Earthlings is in the year 2276 and that is the very next pass by after its discovery, yes it orbits by us once every 415 years. We know now the history of Comet Thatcher dates to at least 687 B. C. by the trail of comet dust it leaves behind. We know about the dust because of the meteor shower it produces – the Lyrids.>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyrids wrote:
<<The Lyrids are a strong meteor shower lasting from April 16 to April 26 each year. The radiant of the meteor shower is located in the constellation Lyra, peaking at April 22—hence they are also called the Alpha Lyrids or April Lyrids. The source of the meteor shower is the periodic Comet C/1861 G1 Thatcher. The Lyrids have been observed for the past 2600 years.

The shower on May 22, 687 BC (proleptic Julian calendar) was recorded in Zuo Zhuan, which describes the shower as "On day xīn-mǎo of month 4 in the summer (of year 7 of King Zhuang of Lu), at night, fixed stars are invisible, at midnight, stars dropped down like rain."

The shower usually peaks on around April 22 and the morning of April 23. Counts typically range from 5 to 20 meteors per hour, averaging around ten.

Lyrid meteors are usually around magnitude +2. However, some meteors can be brighter, known as "Lyrid fireballs", cast shadows for a split second and leave behind smokey debris trails that last minutes.>>

http://meteorshowersonline.com/lyrids.html wrote:
<<During the infancy of meteor astronomy, a number of interesting meteor showers were generally overlooked. One of these was the Lyrids. Following the discovery that the Leonid meteor shower was an annual display, Dominique Francois Jean Arago did some research in 1835 and found enough evidence to support the existence of a probable annual meteor shower around April 22. Responding to this suggestion was Edward C. Herrick (New Haven, Connecticut, USA), who carried out coordinated observations of this meteor shower with Francis Bailey in 1839. These observations revealed weak, but definite activity, which seemed to peak on April 19. Herrick then began scouring the literature and quickly uncovered a large display of meteors that was seen by numerous people in the eastern part of the United States on April 19-20, 1803. He also identified probable observations of this meteor shower from the years 1095, 1096, and 1122. Despite Herrick's observations and historical evidence supporting this stream's existence, the next coordinated observations were not carried out until 1864, when Alexander Stewart Herschel observed several meteors from the region of the constellation Lyra on the night of April 19/20.

During 1866, the annual Perseid shower had been linked to periodic comet Swift-Tuttle and the Leonids were linked to the newly discovered periodic comet Tempel-Tuttle. As 1867 began, astronomers were still busy seeking further evidence linking meteor showers to comets. Edmond Weiss (Vienna, Austria) was busy calculating probable close encounters between Earth and comet orbits. One comet orbit, that of Thatcher (1861 I), was found to come within 0.002 AU of Earth's orbit on April 20. As Weiss searched through various publications for evidence of this shower's presence, he came across several references to observed showers around April 20. Later that same year, Johann Gottfried Galle mathematically confirmed the link between comet Thatcher and the Lyrids and successfully traced the history of the shower back to March 16, 687 BC.

The peak rates of activity have remained relatively consistent from year to year with values generally between 5 and 10 per hour, although there have been unexpected outbursts. As noted earlier, a very strong outburst was noted in 1803. William F. Denning (England) pointed out that in 1849 and 1850, observers in New Haven and India, respectively, noticed "unusual numbers" of meteors on April 20. Denning himself observed a maximum hourly rate of 22 during his observations of 1884, H. N. Russell (Greece) found a rate of 96 on April 21, 1922, Koziro Komaki (Nippon Meteor Society, Japan) saw 112 meteors (most were Lyrids) in 67 minutes on April 22, 1945, and several observers in Florida and Colorado noted rates of 90-100 on April 22, 1982.

The duration of this shower is fairly short. Four amateur astronomers from southern California (Alan Devault, Terry Heil, Greg Wetter and Bob Fischer) observed the Lyrids during April 20 to 24, 1974, and concluded that the shower remained above 1/4 its maximum rate for 3.6 days. Denning reported that his extensive observations of this meteor shower revealed that weak traces of activity were present as early as April 14 and as late as April 26. Interestingly, Zdenek Sekanina reported that the Radio Meteor Project, which spanned the period of 1961-1965, detected probable members of this stream as late as May 3.

Several observers have attempted to estimate the orbital period of this meteor stream from the observations above. Herrick concluded from his historical study of Lyrid activity that the stream exhibited an orbital period of 27 years. Based on the activity observed in 1803 and 1850, Denning concluded that the Lyrids had an orbital period of 47 years, but his prediction of possible enhanced activity in 1897 was met by rates not exceeding 6 per hour. After the outburst in 1982, many researchers remarked that the period was about 60 years, based on the showers of 1803, 1922 and 1982. Unfortunately none of these suggested orbital periods fit the observations perfectly, and it might be possible that the Lyrid orbit contains several irregularly spaced knots of material that could make it impossible to arrive at an accurate period based on visual observations.

Using the more precise methods of radar and photographic techniques, several attempts have been made to determine the period of the Lyrid stream. A collection of photographic orbits published by Fred L. Whipple in 1952, revealed two "reliable" Lyrid meteors with periods differing by 300 years! In 1971, Bertil-Anders Lindblad published a Lyrid stream orbit, which had a period of 131 years, that was based on 5 meteors photographed during 1952 and 1953, and, in 1970, Sekanina published a Lyrid stream orbit based on radio meteors which had an average period of 9.58 years.

The discrepancy in the orbital period of the Lyrids is primarily due to a lack of data. The number of meteors obtained from the major lists of photographic meteors totals 12, with only 6 being considered reliable (and, incidentally, giving a period of 139 years---close to Lindblad's despite sharing only 2 meteors). Comet Thatcher's period of 415 years is probably much more reliable today than the computed orbital period of the Lyrids.

The relatively sharp peak of the Lyrids seems to be due to the overall lack of serious planetary perturbations. Observational evidence indicates the stream is at least 2600 years old.>>